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    Posted by: jenhet 23/04/2009 at 11:34
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    My school has decided that from next September there will be no separate ICT lessons.  There will be no Head of ICTand all ICT learning will be delivered through other subjects.

    Does anyone have experience of this approach, and can it work?  Which subjects would be used as the vehicle for any Control and Monitoring units? 

    Would be very interested in any responses.

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    Posted by: madwoman 23/04/2009 at 11:39
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    what? at all? not as KS4?

    even if KS4 lessons are offered, are the other  subjectsgoing to deliver ICT or are they just going to use ICT by making powerpoints or typing up coursework? How will that prepare them for GCSE courses?

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    Posted by: madwoman 23/04/2009 at 11:40
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    meant to add that we in ICT dont cover control and monitoring anymore in my school - we pass that onto science and DT

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    Posted by: Gretch35 23/04/2009 at 11:52
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    I'm pretty sure that you HAVE to supply ICT lessons for KS3! At least one a week!

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    Posted by: carpentr 23/04/2009 at 12:21
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     I'm sure I won't be the only old hand on here that's been down this road in the past. While some schools succeeded in making ICT genuinely cross-curricular, most did not, hence the current fashion for discrete ICT lessons.

    It seems to me that it will be harder than ever to do this in future. Not only has the level of technical competence required of the students (and therefore the teachers) risen over the last few years, but any attempt at APP in ICT would be very difficult to achieve. And that's before you even start to consider the corners of ICT that don't fit neatly into anyone else's lessons....

     

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    Posted by: FluffyKat 23/04/2009 at 13:08
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    Are you an ICT teacher? If so, leave. If not, insist that an SLT level person manages and monitors ICT.

    It is a legal requirement to ensure that the NC is delivered and reported to parents, at least once in each key stage (end of Year 9 and Year 11). Who is going to write those reports and do the assessment?

    If I was a parent, I would already be on the phone to Ofsted to complain to make sure they come in as soon as possible.

    The next Ofsted will be very uncomfortable. Your SLT must have a deathwish. Read any recent (last 12 months) Ofsted reports and if the school is doing what you say yours is, they got creamed. Which these days could affect the school financially.

    One assumes that the decision is financially driven anyway, so this could make matters worse.

    Clearly one has to doubt the judgement of the head, and working in a school where the head has lost the plot is not something I would wish to do again.

    As for legal requirment to teach discrete lessons. No, there are very few subjects that must be taught (RE comes to mind). And ICT is not one of them.

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    Posted by: gq52 23/04/2009 at 20:44
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    jenhet:

    My school has decided that from next September there will be no separate ICT lessons.  There will be no Head of ICTand all ICT learning will be delivered through other subjects.

    Does anyone have experience of this approach, and can it work?  Which subjects would be used as the vehicle for any Control and Monitoring units? 

    Would be very interested in any responses.

     

     

    I suggest you download this and pass it on to your SMT!

     "The importance of ICT - Ofsted report"

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    Posted by: planetx 24/04/2009 at 00:00
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    There are a number of schools I work in that have an ICTAC approach to delivering ICT. There is an ICT co-ordinator, who is not an ICT teacher, and each subject HoD has to provide a contribution to the ICT SoW from their subject. The LEA advisor is also part of the scheme providing a level of support to ensure consistency across all schools in the LEA who approach ICT this way.  Schools not part of the scheme are watching closely.

    The SoWs I've seen are not trivial although they are very much based around office applications. This approach seems to be growing in popularity.

    There is a particular school in the West Country that provides something of a benchmark for this approach to delivering ICT.

    It should be remembered that ICT in primary schools is almost always delivered by the class teacher so it's not that unfamiliar approach.

    Control is often delivered by D&T, even in schools with an ICT department, because the skills are more likely to be there alongside electronics.

    Key stage 4 ICT in these situation is almost always a subset of business studies.

     

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    Posted by: bainsyboy 24/04/2009 at 00:34
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     There is a statutory requirement for ALL pupils to receive the KS4 PoS.  If you do not do this, are likely to be classed as inadequate by OSFTED.  I know a local school who had a high% of KS4 uptake but still failed OSFTED because of the % who didn't take ICT (and also those not on GCSE courses).

     I really, as a HoD, would not want to be anywhere near this.  How do you know the assessment of ICT is accurate?  Evidence?  Standardisation? How are reports going to be written?  It just spells nightmare and disaster as far as the eye can see. Also, where is the stretch and challenge for the pupils??

     At KS3, I can possibly see it being possible but with huge amounts of work.  At KS4, meeting the entitlement of EVERY pupil (it is a statutory requirement after all), wouldn't be workable unless EVERYONE did business and ICT within it AND also did the control/sequencing parts of the PoS as well.

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    Posted by: DEmsley 24/04/2009 at 08:02
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    Gretch35:

    I'm pretty sure that you HAVE to supply ICT lessons for KS3! At least one a week!

    That's not statutory.  You HAVE to deliver the Programmes of Study but if a school believes it can do so via a vehicle other than ICT lessons then they are well within their rights to do so.

     

    Personally don't think they can but ...

     

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