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    Posted by: guiding_star 06/09/2011 at 21:08
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    I'm an NQT, currently without a job so doing supply for the time being but looking for a full time job. There is a maternity KS2 cover at the local Girl's High which is part of the GDST. I really want to go for the job but my qualms are a) will I be able to handle the pressure for results b) is it a smooth move as a first job or not as it is likely that I'd end up returning to the state sector at the end of the maternity cover unless another job came up. Any advice? I have worked in private schools as a TA and supply teacher before my degree but this was abroad not in the UK!

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    Posted by: alexlawrence 10/09/2011 at 11:53
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    I think you would have nothing to lose by applying - or at least looking around the school. As long as they were happy to mentor you through the NQT year. In our school we frequently have NQTs, some stay in the private sector, others don't. It is very different from teaching in the state sector, and the pressure for results would be high, but equally you would probably find very motivated pupils with supportive parents (sometimes a little too supportive). I can't guarantee this in every case, but I suspect your CV would be much stronger with 2 solid terms under your belt than with a variety of supply work. I might be a little biased - my first job in an independent school was due to relocation, not really a deliberate move away from the state sector - but after nearly 20 years I don't think I'd choose to go back! But at an early stage in your career you have more choice - you haven't had time to get into a 'niche' yet. Good luck, whatever you decide!
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    Posted by: guiding_star 12/09/2011 at 21:08
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    Thanks for that advice - I've applied for the job. I have lots of extra curricular to offer which goes down well with private schools from what I've heard. On advice from a friend who works at the private school next door I have not visited the school prior to applying, apparently round here that is not the done thing with independent schools (apart from one). I hope I made the right decision with that and it won't affect my application!

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    Posted by: Dogfish1 23/12/2011 at 22:01
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    The range of independent schools is enormous: as it is in the state sector. At the very top are the household names, including the Clarendon Group. Only most talented and highly achieving staff will be interviewed in mainstream subjects in these schools (many universities would love to have such staff)  and many of the pupils have special needs in that they require stimulation and stretching that only academically brilliant teachers can deliver. Many of these schools do not even teach A-levels - the Cambridge Pre-U is much harder and is often judged to be more appropriate.

     

    In the middle ground are schools which are thriving with a strong regional identities and many have excellent A-level and GCSE results. Teaching is often  better organised in such establishments since they take in a wider range of ability. These schools are similar to the top hundred or so state comprehensives and are likely to be found in the same leafy suburbs.

     

    At the bottom end are some struggling independent schools - and teaching in these brings different challenges again.

     

    But no independent school provides the financial security of the state sector because they do not have the blanket support of strong unions or local authorities.   

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    Posted by: TheoGriff 26/12/2011 at 23:06
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    Dogfish1:

    But no independent school provides the financial security of the state sector because they do not have the blanket support of strong unions or local authorities.   

    But some of them have multi-million pound foundations . . . 

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    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Seminars. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews, with practical exercises that people really appreciate.

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    Posted by: Tangit 22/01/2012 at 22:06
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    my partner is considering applying for a job in an indp school after 3 years in a rough inner city comp. He hayes the fact that there is so much crowd control and social work and loves his a-level classes where kids are eager to learn etc. He works til very late most nights trying to plan and prepare lessons to 'entertain/engage' them in french & spanish (most of them have never been outside the city, never mind abroad) He's just very dissatisfied in general. The biggest doubt he has about working in an indy school is the workload and extra curricular expectations. We have a young family and does not want our boys nor I to suffer. He feels that if a move meant that we would see even less of us, that he would prefer to stay where he is - albeit unhappy. What is a typical day/week like? half of the boys board. (btw I am an ast in a state primary school so I am familiar with working in education and know what is expected/involved in state sector) Thanks
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