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How long do you spend planning for mental maths?

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    Posted by: wolverina 19/01/2010 at 23:48
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    We have a new whizzy maths coordinator who is a lovely person and outstanding teacher. However a number of us are beginning to feel like failures and that we are not teaching maths and particularly the mental/oral session correctly. It has been suggested that we spend at least 20 minutes on this part of this lesson and use lots of powerpoints (ok many of them can be downloaded) and include at least 4/5 different activities, all of which need to be differentiated. I have tried to take this on board but find I'm spending at least 30 minutes planning this part of the lesson before I start on the main part! What do other people do the for mental/oral session?

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    Posted by: tafkam 20/01/2010 at 00:35
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    I sometimes spend up to 30 minutes planning my mental and oral starters.

    For a whole year's worth in total.

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    Posted by: shalala 20/01/2010 at 14:02
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    As long as it takes me to get something out of the book.
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    Posted by: sallyb33 20/01/2010 at 14:58
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    Have you tried Starter of the Day from Transum,

    http://www.transum.org/Software/SW/Starter_of_the_day/index.htm

     

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    Posted by: nick909 20/01/2010 at 18:18
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    Odd that guidance now states that the O&M part isn't necessarily essential to a lesson, and certainly not unless it has relevance to the main learning.

    Obviously O&M has its place, but 20 minutes in every lesson?  Really?  What's wrong with children just getting down to the learning and working in their books straight away?  The AFL possibilities are far better than less confident kids either copying off each other's whiteboards or not answering at all for those 20 minutes.

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    Posted by: wolverina 20/01/2010 at 22:55
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    Thanks for the comments! They make me feel lots better! Shall now carry on in my own sweet way!!

    Nick 909 Which "guidance" are you referring to? Would like to get hold of relevant sections just in case I need to waft them under coordinator's nose?

    Sallyb33 can't seem to access the site!

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    Posted by: oldsomeman 20/01/2010 at 23:03
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     Sometimes on supply i have to mare my oral starters up on the day without planning.and they go ok!

    seriously .as long as they either perpare children for the lesson to come, challange them to consider or reinforce a concept why is so much time spent.

    In one school i go to they have in maths......

    5 mins tables.......speed tables

    5 mins white board work....write and show

    5 mins of a challange question , often involving quick collective discussion and writing

    Ten its in tot he main lesson....intoro and then main task

    10  mins plenerry

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    Posted by: bluebell27 20/01/2010 at 23:03
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    We have 10 minute mental maths ability groups each day[ Teachers and TAs have groups} so have done away with class mental and oral starter session. These groups are really good as they allow us to cover concepts regularly  that are relevent to children's needs. After the 10 minutes all children go back to their own classes for their daily numeracy lesson which they get stuck into straight away.

     

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    Posted by: NIKNAKWS3 21/01/2010 at 10:54
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    All these very different views on O&M illustrate one of two things. The message is very unclear on what all aspects of the strategies are for and should b,e which is down to poor leadership on one hand, or, on the other, they are mean't to be all these things and more yet a few opinionated inspectors or teachers are trying to impose their vision of what O&M should be. As an ex-teacher who like thousands became disillusioned with imposition, i suspect a bit of both!
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    Posted by: wolverina 21/01/2010 at 23:42
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    Was speaking to a colleague today whose husband teaches maths in secondary. He thought the emphasis that our coordinator wants to put on the OM session is completely over the top and has never heard of the 6 Rs of mental maths! Summed it up as a complete farce! Quite agree! To plan and teach the way the coordinator suggests  is going to increase planning time by a ludicrous amount. Think will have to seek union advice.

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