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    Posted by: barefoots 10/01/2012 at 18:59
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     What a nasty little shit that link tutor sounds like - pretty much like the one I had who is presumably some kind of sociopath. Her advice to me before she observed my lesson (bearing in mind very young children involved) was 'be horrible to them, really horrible.'

     WTF - stupid cow!

    Where do they find these people? The link tutor I had boasted the she always made her students cry. Like you, I afterwards spoke to other people who had had horrible experiences with her so I know it wasn't just me.Must be their little power trip.

    I pretty much had a nervous breakdown - my partner had never see me like that before and was astonished so it's not as though I am neurotic.

     Your experience sounds similar to mine - mentor teacher hiding resources/deliberately tripping me up in front of the class etc. Why use teachers as mentors who are quite evidently so insecure and paranoid that they cannot handle a student in their clasroom? It's not as if I wanted her job - the school was horrible with a weak head (hence crap work envionment and bullying atmosphere).

     Oh yes, the 'unprofessional' accusation! That was hurled at me by the director of the pgce course and the placement head at the college when I had the temerity to put down in writing that the college like tutor was harrassing me. I've never witnessed behaviour like that before and I am in my 40s and have worked in loads of different fields!

    I just WISH I had taped the feedback she gave me after my final observation - an hour of verbal abuse. Quite extraordinary. I suppose she got off on it - how creepy is that?

    You did well to get through. I just lost all motivation.  Now I look back on that part of my life, I realise that it was totally niave of me to imagine that success in teaching would  have much to do with actually teaching. Like other areas of work (although I do think the teaching profession is particularly bad in this respect) it is more to do with negotiating the snake-pit, side-stepping the psyociopaths and generally not being dragged down into a swamp of politics, power-playing and mind games.

    Such  a shame - I genuinely like children and what's more I am good with them and I can also teach and did not have a hidden agenda. Guess that's just too threatening for some people! After a year or so away from it all, and a good dose of therapy and self-esteem boosting, I can now see it for what it was - a sort of character assassination.

    Good luck - with the level of AWARENESS you now have you should be able to spot the sharks.  

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    Posted by: barefoots 14/01/2012 at 12:33
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     Oops! A few spelling mistakes....naive.....psychopaths...

    Two very important words which could be put into an instructional sentence for all student teachers and indeed teachers generally - don't be naive, learn to spot the psychopaths!

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    Posted by: Mr. Kamikaze 20/01/2012 at 11:26
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    f***! I thought that the PT at my last school was a total nut-job, but some of the tales over the last few pages have been utterly harrowing. These vile PTs and tutors have made me stressed out of my box, and I've just read about them!

    I was at a Roman Catholic Secondary school in Glasgow last year, and the PT of English was a total *** witch (there's not many of them in RC secondaries in Glasgow- perhaps you know her!!). It was a female-dominated department, and she had a clique of girls whom she fawned over, and treated far better than she treated me. After the horror stories of the past few pages my anecdotes are going to pale in comparison, but I'll divulge anyway. I came in one morning and the nut-job PT was talking to her girls about- oh I don't know- a load of pish: X Factor or something- laughing and joking. I had a question about a unit of work for the PT, and so I waited until she was done. She went into her room and I followed her. As she was writing up the learning intentions on her board I cheerily greeted her with a "good morning", which was not reciprocated. I began to ask her the question that I had, and she just stopped me in my tracks: in a ridiculosuly patronising tone of voice I was told that she was too busy to talk to me, and that I should just sort it out myself. This was straight she had been laughing and joking with various other members of the department for the past 20 minutes!

    The same thing happened again one day when I knocked on her door and entered to ask her a question- she basically told me to eff off: "can't you see I'm busy?!" *rolls eyes*.

    Then, on my last day, she grudgingly came to my room to say goodbye. As long as I live, I will never forget her closing words to me: "I was going to ask the head teacher if you could stay on for next year, but it totally slipped my mind- you know how it is."

    Totally. ***. Dumbfounded. I was lost for words. I literally couldn't speak, so shocked was I at how effortless and casual her evil little put-down was.

    So yes, there are a lot of disturned individuals out there in very senior teaching positions.

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    Posted by: Laura_123 31/01/2012 at 19:18
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    I failed my second year placement. The teacher made it clear she did not like me and did not want a student. I went to the school crying and came home crying. I became unwell due to this and couldnt sleep or eat. The mentor ignored it because he was friends with my class teacher and my university ignored it too. I failed and was told it was all my fault..so..with the help of a friend who is a deputy head and my parents I put an appeal together stating everything the school and the teacher did at fault, including my university tutor. I was given a second chance and passed in a different school.

    If it wasnt for my friend and my parents I would have quit.

    It has had a huge impact on my confidence and still worries me now....no student teacher should be bullied they should be supported. x

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    Posted by: law321 17/02/2012 at 00:58
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    Hiya, I am currently going through this process at the moment. I am in my second year placement and the class teacher (who is a form of management in the school) has failed me giving my uni a list of occasions where I have said or done things to them- non of which are true. The uni have been using that school for students for many years so refuse to listen to me. I was just wondering how did you go about redoing your placement? Any help or advice would be great as I have no idea really what to do?
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    Posted by: Mr_Beetroot 19/02/2012 at 15:50
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    I wouldn't say I was bullied on my second year placement but I certainly wasn't treated very well. It was at a C of E school where the faith element was very strong. I told them in the staff room I was an atheist and about 80% of them reacted in the same way as if I'd said I was an axe murderer. Although, nobody actually said anything to me I always felt like I was an outsider. My mentor just did not want to get to know me at all and it took a week for her to give me the time (about 5 seconds) to hand her my paperwork. Everything I did she looked for the negative and constantly tried to make me feel small. Luckily I had a supportive class teacher who kept me going through it, I was counting down the days in the end though. If my class teacher treated me with the same disdain and disregard as the mentor and some other staff there I almost undoubtedly would have dropped out.
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    Posted by: papoosue 21/02/2012 at 21:30
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     I  have just spent a good while reading through most of the posts here. If I hadn't read them, I really wouldn't have believed that some of your experiences could have been so absolutely awful. I'm shocked to be honest. I take my hat off to all of you who have been through these experiences and managed to get through despite them - and to those who dropped out, I'm not surprised at all. In fact, I am surprised more people haven't.

     As a (mature) person who is about to begin her PGDE in August, I can only pray that I will not suffer the same awful experiences.

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    Posted by: escott16 26/02/2012 at 14:17
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    I am a mature PGDE student who has been very lucky (so far) with the teachers that I have been on placement with.  Students really need to be supported through their placements, otherwise they don't progress and their confidence can take a beating.  I like the idea of having 'teaching schools' like we have 'teaching hospitals' where it is only the schools that are effective in developing their students will get students.  There can't be anything worse than feeling so unwanted in what can be a scary and new environment.  Hopefully, Papoosue, you will be like the majority of us and get the supportive teachers that you need.
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    Posted by: ND1989 10/05/2012 at 14:19
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    My experience echos this. Both schools I've been to (PGDE at strathy) have been fantastic, supportive staff and managment.

     

    Point is not all schools are like the ones depicted here.

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    Posted by: Eva_Smith 13/05/2012 at 08:39
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    I just want everyone posting on this thread to know that not ALL mentors, departments and link tutors are like this. Some of us actually ENJOY having a student teacher in our school and ENJOY the opportunity to mentor. I learn so much from being a mentor. I really love being able to give guidance and advice to someone new into the profession and help them avoid the pitfalls I fell into when I was first starting out in teaching.

    I hate that there are schools and mentors who are wholly unsupportive and even go to the extent of bullying. Unfortunately, I have come across a great deal of of these sorts of people who attempt to undermine everyone else in their attempt to clamber up the greasy pole; they will literally tread on anyone they can to get ahead.

    I cannot explain what makes human being behave this way towards other human beings.

    I only hope that those of you experiencing this terrible bullying can be strong enough to get through it and have many many years enjoying your teaching in a school of your choosing. Most teachers really are very decent people.

    Good luck x x x

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