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Posted by:
Imp72 03/12/2007 at
19:14
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Can a person spec say that it is essential to have a minimum time for being qualified as a teacher before being considered for the post? I would have thought that this was a from of discrimination. Your thoughts appreciated.
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Posted by:
madphil 03/12/2007 at
20:03
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I do not think it is unreasonable to suggest that a certain level of experience is needed to fulfil the role. Are you seriously suggesting that an NQT could go straight into being a DHT without first having had some experience in schools professionally rather than on teaching practice?
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Posted by:
Imp72 03/12/2007 at
20:15
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Never mentioned being an NQT. The post states minimum of 4 yrs.
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Posted by:
madphil 03/12/2007 at
20:19
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How big is the school? What sector is it? The reason I brought up the NQT bit is that if a limit is not put in place it leaves it open to anyone apply - you cannot have it both ways - any limit is either discriminatory or not - I would say a school can choose how much experience it feels is needed to do the job in their school. Most DHT jobs require between 3 and 5 years as a guide in my experience.
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Posted by:
Imp72 03/12/2007 at
20:22
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Primary with <150 pupils. I have 3 years and have had positive soundings about post from school. Then read person spec and it stated min of 4 years. Gutted that a person with another years experience is deemed more suitable!
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Posted by:
madphil 03/12/2007 at
20:26
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I can see your point. Is it not worth speaking to HT or member of Govs about it to see why they settled on 4. That said I wouldn't necessarily let that put you off anyway. It very much depends how many people apply and it is only one of the criteria so may not take much effect if your overall application is strong which sounds like it might be.
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You can always apply. However, you may find that many of the DHT specs say around 4-5 years. There is something that does come with experience no matter how good you are. I have seen "young" (in experience not just in age) teachers become DHT and just were not able to have the clout to back up what they were doing and lost credit with the staff. Even now that I am well into the double digits in teaching experience, I have older teachers consider me that "young thing with grand ideas"!
Maybe look at some Assistant Headships. That may be a way to gain more experience all the way around.
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Posted by:
madphil 03/12/2007 at
20:40
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Sorry summertime but I have to disagree. Age is no bearer of experience. It is far more about the actual experience a person can prove. As someone in the middle phase who became HOY at 27 (on SLT) DHT at 31 and HT at 37 I have had 'You look/are too young' thing levelled all throughout my career. However, I was fortunate that all my schools provided me with the experience needed to move on. My old HT said to me he was DHT in two schools. One where he learned loads and one where he was appointed to become Y6 football coach - he left PDQ! It is about what you have proven to do not just how long you have 'apparently' been doing it.
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Posted by:
Imp72 03/12/2007 at
20:44
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Thanks for that-may they still overlook it despite the fact it is essential and not desirable?
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Posted by:
madphil 03/12/2007 at
20:49
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That depends whether it becomes the tie breaker for any applications. They should score every application in the same way based against the person spec. Therefore it would only be an issue if other applications were equally as high scoring as yours overall. If you state something along the lines of 3 yrs experience and this has included x, y, z etc etc. and include your youth and energy then you are removing it as a barrier and turning it into a strength - come on, pick me because I'm young, able and want to do it!!!!
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