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    Posted by: stars15 03/09/2008 at 17:43
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    I don't.

    What do others think?

     

     

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    Posted by: bombaysapphire 03/09/2008 at 19:19
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    I think it can help - but not as much as clear routines. If you establish your expectations and show what the rewards and sanctions are then that has the most effective impact on behaviour.
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    Posted by: DiogenesofSinope 03/09/2008 at 19:33
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     I agree with the original poster - an interesting lesson does not stop those students who aim to disrupt lessons from being disruptive.  Just because a film is interesting, for example, does not stop a hooligan from throwing popcorn at the screen (albeit they might do it less, and only in the 'boringer parts with dialogue').

      However, this does not mean it isn't good practice to provide interesting lessons (as far as possible).

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    Posted by: stars15 03/09/2008 at 20:07
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    The reason I asked the question in the first place was because it can be very difficult to make lessons interesting all the time and all the way through. I'm a Science teacher and there are many aspects of science where you cannot use practicals and cannot be interesting all the time. 

    When I ask students what they would find interesting, they comment the usual - bangs, explosions etc., and a few say that an interesting experiment would help them to learn as they would be more involved. However, I've found that many students still don't really care regardless of how interesting you make it. I think it really has to do with the culture of today which is "I want variety and I want it now". 

    I try and put as much variety  into a lesson as possible, but the pupils still need to be able to understand what they are being taught and one has to therefore repeat what is being taught in a variety of ways. Pupils have commented that it makes the lesson 'dry'. I've seen this in many different subjects and with many different teachers. Are there strategies (in any subject) that are used to make sure the lesson isn't dry which I have not come across?

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    Posted by: coolasacucumber 03/09/2008 at 22:40
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    I think if you come across as energetic and interested it will capture a lot of their attention.

    There will always be the hardened few that are hell bent on not listening but an interesting way of engaging with them will help a lot.

    You don't have to create bangs and explosions to get them to enjoy learning.

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    Posted by: DiogenesofSinope 04/09/2008 at 10:26
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    coolasacucumber:

    I think if you come across as energetic and interested it will capture a lot of their attention.

       "Why are you interested in science?  Are you a nerd?"

      A lack of intrinsic motivation (wanting to learn about a subject for its own sake) in the student can be dealt with through enthusiasm.  But if a student is opposed to learning in a particular subject or in general, then actually being interested in something boffins do is a severe character flaw.

      So I do not think this is enough.

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    Posted by: SueCowley 04/09/2008 at 17:55
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    Not in and of itself.  But surely it stands to reason that classes are more likely to behave if the students are engaged and interested in the lesson?

    You can also use it as a motivating factor - if you want the interesting cool stuff, you've got to earn the right to get it.

    Incidentally, not all 'interesting' lessons are whizz bang, explosions, multi media, etc.  One of my most successful lessons ever involved simply a blacked out drama studio and a torch.  It was the atmosphere and their imagination that made it successful.

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    Posted by: oldandrew 04/09/2008 at 18:34
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    SueCowley:

    Not in and of itself.  But surely it stands to reason that classes are more likely to behave if the students are engaged and interested in the lesson?

     

    You appear to be confusing the lesson being interesting with the students being interested. When it comes to the worst behaved students these things are rarely connected.

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    Posted by: SueCowley 04/09/2008 at 18:49
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    I don't agree.  Some of my worst behaved students have got interested when I've taken the time to personalise the lesson to them - their interests, their needs, their personalities.  I think with behaviour you do whatever it takes to try to get them to learn.  It doesn't always work, but surely it'd be a shame not to try?

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    Posted by: cryptothewise 04/09/2008 at 19:48
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    Within a class at any given moment, you will have a wide range of behaviours on display. no matter how interesting the lesson, it is the mind of each individual that decides at that moment as to whether it is interested or not. Therefore lesson content and delivery is only a very small factor in the cause of pupil behaviour.

    A well planned interesting lesson can easily fail due to other circumstances eg last lesson of the day, snow starts to fall, or thunder and lighting storms overhead, stifling hot weather, etc etc

    Studies show that one of the major causes of poor pupil behaviour is the excessive amount of target setting and monitoring that they have to endure. It is a serious switch off for many students.

     So, to answer the question, i think that interesting lessons and pupil behaviour are linked, but not to the great extent as some people think they are. 

     

     

    How much you made sellling your books Sue?

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