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    Posted by: tonycallaghan 13/03/2010 at 09:08
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    There will be urgency motions at ATL and NASUWT calling for an end to the admission of Support Staff { without QTS}  into these associations. Will the officers allow the debates to take place in public session ?

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    Posted by: ResourceFinder 13/03/2010 at 10:45
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    tonycallaghan:
    Support Staff { without QTS}

    support staff

    or people without QTS

    which is the motion referring to?

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    Posted by: Dorset 13/03/2010 at 11:07
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    tonycallaghan:

    There will be urgency motions at ATL and NASUWT calling for an end to the admission of Support Staff { without QTS}  into these associations. Will the officers allow the debates to take place in public session ?

     

    What's the point in going?  The unions will put such concerns that affect many teachers as low down on their agenda as possible, while they sit around and discuss homophobia, Islamophobia, racism, and sexism like they always do.  We already know their views on these issues.  They send posters about them virtually every month to Staff Rooms up and down the country while the majority of their members are more worried about job cuts, redunduncies, Academies, the GTC, etc.

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    Posted by: tonycallaghan 14/03/2010 at 10:27
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    ResourceFinder:
    tonycallaghan:
    Support Staff { without QTS}

    support staff

    or people without QTS

    which is the motion referring to?

    Urgency motion will be tabled once the Conferences start and distributed to delegates in the confrence halls. This will prevent the Officers and NEC sidelining the debate. I am told that members of ATL and NAS were not officially informed that CSs; HLTAs and others had been recruited into full membership.

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    Posted by: tonycallaghan 16/03/2010 at 08:49
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    The unions have been very quiet about which politicians they are inviting to address their conferences........... why ?

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    Posted by: mikeshaw 16/03/2010 at 11:47
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    Hi Tony - I'm going to be reporting from the NASUWT conference, while colleagues will be at NUT.

    Incidentally, I passed on a question about cover supervisors at our pre-election debate last night. Not sure if you'll be satisfied by the answer, but all three seemed to make mutterings that it should be a qualified teacher in front of the class. If you missed it, visit www.tes.co.uk/election2010.

    All the best,

    Michael

    michael.shaw@tes.co.uk

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    Posted by: darkness 16/03/2010 at 12:05
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    I had a feeling that would be the response. It is the same one I had before. They skirt around the issue.
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    Posted by: BigFrankEM 16/03/2010 at 16:48
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    mikeshaw:

    Hi Tony - I'm going to be reporting from the NASUWT conference, while colleagues will be at NUT.

    Incidentally, I passed on a question about cover supervisors at our pre-election debate last night. Not sure if you'll be satisfied by the answer, but all three seemed to make mutterings that it should be a qualified teacher in front of the class. If you missed it, visit www.tes.co.uk/election2010.

    All the best,

    Michael

    michael.shaw@tes.co.uk

     

    Not sure if it was the section which I saw near the end. There the reply which caught my ear was from SoS Ed Balls. If you looked the other way you missed his reply then. It went something like:

     

    "Yes we need qualified teachers AND WE HAVE EMPLOYED AN EXTRA 40 000 QUALIFIED TEACHERS AS WELL AS  120 000 COVER SUPERVISORS (or maybe he said TAs) AND SO EVERY DAY THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER IN EVERY WAY.

     

    Lies.

     

    Orwellian lies.

    Words mean what I say they mean.

     

    (Then Gove said that "we will extend the GTP scheme to non-graduates; especially military types" More LIES. Words...as above.)

     

    ***** wept.

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    Posted by: tonycallaghan 17/03/2010 at 08:42
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    mikeshaw:

    Hi Tony - I'm going to be reporting from the NASUWT conference, while colleagues will be at NUT.

    Incidentally, I passed on a question about cover supervisors at our pre-election debate last night. Not sure if you'll be satisfied by the answer, but all three seemed to make mutterings that it should be a qualified teacher in front of the class. If you missed it, visit www.tes.co.uk/election2010.

    All the best,

    Michael

    michael.shaw@tes.co.uk

    Morning Mike,  For me,the debate about Cover Supervisors is on hold until we know the outcome of the General Election. I will be lobbying a Tory administation, if elected, to phase out classroom helpers without QTS. The current situation with UNITE will be interesting. The Tories want to sideline the unions and although they have cuddled up to ATL and NASUWT pre 1997 i believe that now it is a fact that these so-called professional associations recruit non- teachers attitudes will change.

     The urgency motions at the conferences may be scuppered by the NECs but i know that rank and file members of both 'unions' are very unhappy, particularly that the recruitment of non qts people has not been given publicity, for obvious reasons. Ask around at the fringe meetings there is a lot of unhappiness amongst delegates.

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