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    Posted by: nikkib_1986 28/05/2011 at 17:28
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    Hi!

     

    I'm looking to introduce a music technology qualification to my school as an alternative to a traditional GCSE music course.

    I've stumbled acorss the ncfe level 2 certificate in music technology and just wondered if anyonw has used it or has any experience of it.

     Thanks

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    Posted by: JennyMus 28/05/2011 at 19:37
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    Have you looked at the BTEC Level 2 qual in music technology?
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    Posted by: poemeelectronique 28/05/2011 at 19:58
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    JennyMus:
    Have you looked at the BTEC Level 2 qual in music technology?
    There isn't one.  The BTEC L2 courses can contain some music tech-like units but it isn't a music technology qual. 

    With regard to the NCFE - just be careful that it's accepted by FE/Sixth Form colleges are part of a GCSE programme.  I know that my college doesn't accept it.  

    I have taught it in another college (to 14-16 students who came to the college to do it) and it was pretty straightforward to deliver, assess and track grades.  The external moderation process seemed to be rigorous enough.  

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    Posted by: nikkib_1986 28/05/2011 at 20:12
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    Yes as poemelectronique states there isn't a level 2 music tech qualification. I looked at the music btec (taught the old spec for a year last year after taking over a group) and it is possible to pick and choose units to make it more tech orientated but you wouldn't be able to call it a music tech qualification.

    Thanks poemelectronique- i'll look into the limitations for local colleges and 6th form centres.

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    Posted by: JennyMus 28/05/2011 at 20:19
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    Yes you're right, there isn't one by name but you could run a music tech based level 2 easily which is what I'm starting next year. Taking the 20 credits worth of mandatory units and then making the remaining 40 credits technology based and focused, e.g. Exploring Musical Composition with an electronic based portfolio. It may not be called Level 2 Diploma in Music Technology but it will be both Level 2 and a Music Tech based course. It's worth a look!
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    Posted by: poemeelectronique 28/05/2011 at 20:28
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    JennyMus:
    both Level 2 and a Music Tech based course
    I reckon that's ok as long as it isn't marketed as a specific Music Tech' course.  Although the composing unit can be done with an electronic portfolio, essentially the skills are music rather than tech.  Obviously the Producing a Musical Recording unit is tech-based.  

    The only issue I'd have with students doing a L2 BTEC Music course with so much tech' is that their progression onto the L3 BTEC courses in Music would be difficult because they've spent so much time on tech' but equally I don't think it's a very good progression route to the L3 Music Tech courses either.  For those we need Maths, Physics and English skills rather than tech.  I'd rather have a good general music + general education for a candidate than a specialist music tech course at L2.

     

     

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    Posted by: JennyMus 28/05/2011 at 21:05
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    It would of course need to be marketed under it's correct title but on my publicity I plan to list the units they will study and highlight that the focus of this will be music tech so that prospective candidates can differentiate between this and my standard music practice based Level 2. The units outside the core i'm looking at are Producing a Musical Recording, Exploring Musical Composition (this will begin with standard theoretical delivery and move to electronic focus), Exploring Computer systems and a.n.other (TBC). I plan to continue with my practice based level 2 so that the progression route becomes easier, all of my current Level 2's had made their mind up before they started as to whether their interest lies in the tech or practice area. I don't plan on shirking the basics of standard composition, these will most definitely be taught but the portfolio can be electronic (as you said) and the delivery can still cover everything it should. I'm afraid I disagree that it wouldn't make a very good progression route but that may be down to the type of student we both have. Currently the Level 2 being more practice based provides a good route for my students wishing to progress onto Level 3 Music but not music technology. They currently find the jump phenomenally difficult and are much weaker than external Level 3 Music Tech applicants, who as a rule are coming in with 9 GCSE's grades A*-C or have already done AS's and A-Level's so the standard is high. Any of our level 3's that don't have Maths and English have to re-sit alongside. I completely agree that Physics would be desirable, students of mine that have that trio of subjects are normally very successful on the grade front but in this climate and with jobs to protect I am in no position to turn away good applicants with 5 GCSE's grade C and above and some skill and experience in the tech field that don't have physics! To ensure their general music education I also include a 2 hr weekly musicianship session on all of my courses in addition to their units. This covers keyboard skills, music theory (in addition and in extension of their music theory unit), aural skills and music history. They can also study choir and music tech project as enrichment. I suppose it's down to the centre and local needs, ours may be very different.
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    Posted by: poemeelectronique 29/05/2011 at 11:52
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    JennyMus:
    I suppose it's down to the centre and local needs, ours may be very different.
    Yes, I'm sure that's right. 
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    Posted by: pjames37 17/07/2011 at 12:36
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    Hi

    Yes I ran NCFE Music Technology Course too. It is handy also that it can be converted to The Award Level instead of the Certificate Level, both are Level 2, the latter is worth the same as a B grade in GCSE and the former a C. I have converted students qualification from a Certificate to the Award if their course work is not up to scratch. However, it is all evidence based and in any format whatsoever. If a certain standard is missed out in any unit they can fail unless it is cross referenced with some other evidence they have. I find it a good course, but beware that the course ought to have some templates of 'closed' activities to ensure all candidates provide sufficient evidence. I have found that some boys are poor in organising themselves and provide low standards of evidence at times. I had one student who provided evidence for all the five units and all the standards, but it was pretty low in quality. The moderator suggested moving the candidate to the Level 1 Certificate, which we did.

    Hope this helps

    PAUL

    P.S. Last year the NCFE introduced a £400 annual admin fee for centres delivering the qualification, so it would only be worth it if other courses by NCFE are also present in your school.

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    Posted by: barithesax 31/01/2012 at 13:24
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    Hi JennyMus - we are looking at delivering something 14-16 down a music technology route - which level 2 are you delivering - I can only find MUSIC?

    any help would be greatly appreciated.

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