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    Posted by: runswickbay 08/08/2011 at 02:15
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    Well don't visit here all the time but fed up of every post on our so called CS forum, being slagged off by the elite! So if I can suss how to de register then i am going to!!! HLTA forums are so kinder and without prejudice, I feel on here teachers just want to pounce on your every unqualified word! That is not why I joined!

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    Posted by: runswickbay 08/08/2011 at 02:26
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    I won't de register, just going on the TA forum, seems alot friendlier! Thumbs up Never realised how immature some teachers could be .... and they teach our children FFS!

    Tongue out

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    Posted by: carlwan 08/08/2011 at 16:43
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    Here here.

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    Posted by: jmntsp 09/08/2011 at 01:02
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    runswickbay:
    Never realised how immature some teachers could be .... and they teach our children FFS!

     

    I think the point is that they don't - thanks to unqualified staff being appointed instead.

    I'm sorry if you feel that teachers dislike cover supervisors, but it is an unfortunate fact that they do.  You can't expect them to feel friendly towards unqualified staff who are being appointed simply because they are cheap when qualified teachers are out of work and struggling.  It isn't immature to resent being unable to pay the mortgage, or to buy your children the things they need, or to afford to have any luxuries.  I worked hard to become a teacher - it involved 2 years of 'A' levels, 3 years getting a First Class Honours degree, one further year's study on a PGCE, a year's probation as a NQT and I've since taught for 20 years.  To now find that I cannot get work because people without my qualifications are being employed to stand in front of a class and 'teach' is galling to say the least.  And illegal.  So sorry, but you can't blame teachers for not being 'friendly' towards cover supervisors.  Most of us feel that if you want to be left in charge of a class of pupils; if you want to be standing up there alone as the adult in the room and getting paid for it, then put the damn years of study in and get qualified like we did. 
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    Posted by: Timberwolf 09/08/2011 at 10:10
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    jmntsp:

    runswickbay:
    Never realised how immature some teachers could be .... and they teach our children FFS!

    I think the point is that they don't - thanks to unqualified staff being appointed instead.

    I'm sorry if you feel that teachers dislike cover supervisors, but it is an unfortunate fact that they do.  You can't expect them to feel friendly towards unqualified staff who are being appointed simply because they are cheap when qualified teachers are out of work and struggling.  It isn't immature to resent being unable to pay the mortgage, or to buy your children the things they need, or to afford to have any luxuries.  I worked hard to become a teacher - it involved 2 years of 'A' levels, 3 years getting a First Class Honours degree, one further year's study on a PGCE, a year's probation as a NQT and I've since taught for 20 years.  To now find that I cannot get work because people without my qualifications are being employed to stand in front of a class and 'teach' is galling to say the least.  And illegal.  So sorry, but you can't blame teachers for not being 'friendly' towards cover supervisors.  Most of us feel that if you want to be left in charge of a class of pupils; if you want to be standing up there alone as the adult in the room and getting paid for it, then put the damn years of study in and get qualified like we did. 

     Well said!

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    Posted by: gardenlover 13/08/2011 at 13:53
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    jmntsp:
    I'm sorry if you feel that teachers dislike cover supervisors, but it is an unfortunate fact that they do.

    At the top of this page it says, Role: Cover supervisors!

    I dont think Runswick bay was trying to find friends, I think more like wanting to chat and share news with other cover supervisors!

    jmntsp:
    Most of us feel that if you want to be left in charge of a class of pupils; if you want to be standing up there alone as the adult in the room and getting paid for it, then put the damn years of study in and get qualified like we did. 

    If you read past posts from R'bay you'll find they didn't want to stand in front of a class, more like guilt trips put on him/her from management!!

     

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    Posted by: hellcatgreen 16/09/2011 at 14:28
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    jmntsp:
    I worked hard to become a teacher - it involved 2 years of 'A' levels, 3 years getting a First Class Honours degree, one further year's study on a PGCE, a year's probation as a NQT and I've since taught for 20 years.  To now find that I cannot get work because people without my qualifications are being employed to stand in front of a class and 'teach' is galling to say the least.  And illegal.   

    Cover Supervisors dont teach.  They supervise the work supplied by the absent teacher.  Two weeks in to a new term and one teacher has left after 2 days, one new member has had 4 days off sick, another has had 2 days off sick, and there have been numerous meetings.  I have been working at least 50% of the past two weeks on cover.  But I dont teach.  I supervise the work given by the teacher (or not, in most cases so far).  I go through powerpoints that teachers sometimes make available.  I set the tasks.  I answer questions if I know the answers.  But I dont teach.

     As for illegality - take it up with the courts.  Thats the way to deal with it.  Not to knock your fellow employees, who, incidentally are also trying to pay mortgages, bills etc.  At least you have a mortgage - many cannot afford it.  I am doing CS work to pay my mortgage.  Is my need to pay my bills by doing a legally advertised job less important that you?

    On the subject of holidays - in a recent conversation in our staff room, teachers holidays - one had been to Mexico, two to Cuba, one spent 4 weeks surfing in Cornwall, one went to USA, 3 went to France, one to Aruba ...   I went to stay with family in Wales, because I can't afford the luxury of a holiday.  Get over it.  There is a recession on ...

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    Posted by: darkness 17/09/2011 at 23:42
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    runswickbay:

    Well don't visit here all the time but fed up of every post on our so called CS forum, being slagged off by the elite! So if I can suss how to de register then i am going to!!! HLTA forums are so kinder and without prejudice, I feel on here teachers just want to pounce on your every unqualified word! That is not why I joined!

    I don't think you help matters with your use of the word 'elite'.

    However I agree with what you say in general, you do need somewhere to go to discuss and get help, and I can see it is increasingly difficult.

    However, this is largely down to the TES policy. This is quite a hot topic and the TES barred discussion in the opinion forum.

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    Posted by: latinosteev 10/10/2011 at 11:55
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    How pathetic to write that. Everyone is trying to 'earn' money. Simple fact is unqualified and qualified are clearly reflected in pay scales and so forth. Most covers are well educated, have degrees and simple fact is they are willing to be the kids punching bag for a fraction of 'your' money. Very suprised to see a 'teacher' write that. Hope as a teacher im far more aware of the world.

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    Posted by: madenglishgirl 11/10/2011 at 10:53
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    latinosteev:
    Everyone is trying to 'earn' money. Simple fact is unqualified and qualified are clearly reflected in pay scales and so forth.

    Agreed.

     

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