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    Posted by: budge 21/10/2011 at 06:00
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    ...finished yesterday and thankfully I escaped. I do understand that some people are disappointed that they don't get seen but I'm not one of them. Big reason...haven't had to join in the frankly adolescent game of "what did you get?" in the staffroom. And can you believe that some, albeit younger staff members, have posted their feedback on facebook for crying out loud. Most seen are either smug and self satisfied or frustrated and demoralised. Observations are usually private, discreet affairs - and that's how it should be. I've been reading some of the posts on here about how shattering lesson observations can be - I am yet to be convinced of any adequate way to measure a teacher - simply can't be done. And making them public is just awful. So we shall see what the outcome is today and if the overall feedback is a bit iffy then those smug teachers can sit and think "well it wasn't my fault", and those at the other end will sit and despair...if the feedback is good it'll be "thats because of me" or "phew..but I know I'm going to be hounded for the next 2 years". Not sure which is worse. But I won't be playing...YAY!
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    Posted by: angieHT 23/10/2011 at 20:16
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    I know that there are many teachers who don't get observed after doing much preparation who feel as bad as those who were observed. You are correct that observations should be private affairs, yet the emotional reactions to being observed are also understandable. What is unfortunate is the view that one lesson observation, perhaps only lasting 30 minutes, can in any way sum up a person's whole teaching career. It can't and it doesn't. It is merely a snapshot. It is also best kept private because it simply contributes to a view on 'the teaching'. It helps inspectors say that out of X lessons observed, Y were outstanding, Z were good etc. If you get graded as good or above, that is worth feeling good about. If your grade is lower, then make sure you understand why and if you know that you are generally a good teacher, forget it and move on.
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    Posted by: el presidente 31/10/2011 at 19:24
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    All Inspectors - whether AI or Lead are snakes - they are destroying lives, careers and good teachers' happiness. As colleagues, Inspectors are traitors and cheats.

     

    I say 'cheat' because some Inspectors are serving headteachers earning sizeable salaries, and they are given PAID LEAVE to spend time in other schools as freelance or part time in order to judge a person as inadequate (the person is judged despite all the protestations that it's the lesson - just read the comments from people who have been deemed 'inadequate'). They earn up to £500 per day on top of being paid by their respective employers/school while absent and without office to act as Headteacher. Some Inspection agencies say that the fee is paid back to the school to cover the HT cover; while some say it's good staff development for the HT as Inspector! There is no requirement to pay any monies earned while on inspection back to the school.

     

    I also said 'traitors'. They are colleagues who have probably never taught a class under the same Ofsted regime as their staff are. They are, after all, now headteachers, and they are happy to betray their staff.

     

    I am going to the national press with this

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    Posted by: zinzan 04/11/2011 at 00:33
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    What a complete tw.tt you are. Hold the presses El Presidente speaks!
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    Posted by: zinzan 04/11/2011 at 09:34
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    Really -what would you rather have? Serving practitioners who understand the sector and its pressures- or as is constantly complained of, people who are out of touch. Ofsted require 50% of inspectors are serving practitioners - is this not a good idea? any more or less is unworkable. Ive never met an inspector who hasn't once been a teacher- any many still are. Exactly when in the process of becoming an inspector did they grow two heads, lose touch with reality, dump all their interpersonal skills etc. Payment is correct although that is not the true figure. Many do not get that fee, some take inspection time as leave, or their Governors require it to be paid to the school. Got the paper this morning - didn't see anything yet
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    Posted by: littlerussell 06/11/2011 at 09:40
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    zinzan:
      Ive never met an inspector who hasn't once been a teacher- any many still are.

    A number of schools in our area had a lead inspector who hadn't been a teacher. She was a solicitor and local councillor. A very disproportionate number of schools were placed in categories as - I am told - she didn't know how to interpret the data. I believe the LA made a complaint about her.

    We had a team inspector who didn't know what he was doing (he had taught woodwork in an FE college and was inspecting primary schools). I was an SLT observer in the team meeting where the lead inspector kept telling him he was wrong ...

    In a previous inspection, we had a team inspector who wasn't a teacher. He was rather sensibly deployed by the lead to look at Health & Safety, attendance, etc and didn't go near a classroom.

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    Posted by: el presidente 08/11/2011 at 18:06
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    zinzan:
    Really -what would you rather have? Serving practitioners who understand the sector and its pressures- or as is constantly complained of, people who are out of touch. Ofsted require 50% of inspectors are serving practitioners - is this not a good idea? any more or less is unworkable. Ive never met an inspector who hasn't once been a teacher- any many still are. Exactly when in the process of becoming an inspector did they grow two heads, lose touch with reality, dump all their interpersonal skills etc. Payment is correct although that is not the true figure. Many do not get that fee, some take inspection time as leave, or their Governors require it to be paid to the school. Got the paper this morning - didn't see anything yet

     

    Zinzan - are you an Inspector? Learn to read. Re-read what I wrote.

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    Posted by: el presidente 08/11/2011 at 18:08
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    zinzan:
    What a complete tw.tt you are. Hold the presses El Presidente speaks!

     

    Zinzan, what is a tw.tt?

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    Posted by: zinzan 08/11/2011 at 19:57
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    Apologies. Snakes, traitors, cheats.etc etc Which bit have I misread? Please clarify
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    Posted by: el presidente 08/11/2011 at 20:01
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    Could you clarify what you mean when you write 'tw.tt'?

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