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    Posted by: Jan_Webb 23/01/2012 at 10:44
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    TES resources has long been the original place for teachers to crowdsource resources. The forums have long been the place where teachers discuss what is going on in ICT learning and support each other. So how can we - as teachers - best share what we are doing to support each other through the changes that are ahead of us?  Check out responses from NAACE and CAS to the recent Gove speech at BETT and to the Royal Society report....

    http://www.tes.co.uk/teaching-resource/Responses-to-recent-announcements-NAACE-6167899/

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    http://www.tes.co.uk/teaching-resource/Responses-to-recent-announcements-CAS-6167898/

     

    How will we equip ourselves for the new ICT trinity of IT, Digital Learning and Computing?

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    Posted by: Tosha 23/01/2012 at 20:43
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    Quite simple really, only train people who know something about it. I couldn't become a french teacher but any clown can get on an i(c)t pgce.

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    Posted by: Jan_Webb 23/01/2012 at 21:02
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    Ok so we have to start with what we have in schools - those developments take time and we need to equip ALL teachers, whatever their background, in order to give learners everywhere a fair chance. So what resources are best going to support EVERYONE to deliver this new curriculum?

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    Posted by: Tosha 23/01/2012 at 21:22
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    It isn't possible, programming is like painting, some have an eye for it some don't.

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    Posted by: Tosha 23/01/2012 at 21:26
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    As I said, I could not deliver French nor would I be expected to. Why have IT students been  short changed? I don't think you understand how different the subjects are, computing is highly academic, ICT is the the work of a clerk.

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    Posted by: Tosha 23/01/2012 at 21:44
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    I teach OO principles, patterns and UML in the it department I run. Students aret gradually exposed to these concepts from ks3 on. A graduate of 'whatever'  that can use Microsoft Office can not possibly give students that education, as I can not speak French, Spanish, Yourbu or Mandarin. Who would employ me as a languages teacher?

     IT will fail if this is not realised. Maybe the goverment want it to in all but the most selective schools.

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    Posted by: autismuk 24/01/2012 at 18:09
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    Jan_Webb:

    Ok so we have to start with what we have in schools - those developments take time and we need to equip ALL teachers, whatever their background, in order to give learners everywhere a fair chance. So what resources are best going to support EVERYONE to deliver this new curriculum?

     

     

    Well, there aren't any :(

    Too much of what is done now is, well, rubbish. Playing about with Powerpoint. One needs quality schemes of work, ideally created for both Open Source and common Commercial Software (e.g. LibreOffice and Word, cross platform Programming tools etc.) to deal with the various components.

    Not sure what these are. I've always split it in my head into something like ; Office skills, Presentation and Media production skills ;  Programming, Control and Electronics

    Is this too much for one subject ? Is there a case for (say) Office skills, Computing being seperate subjects (as used to be the case) and the Media stuff being part merged into Media Studies, Drama, Art ?

    My personal POV has always been that we need some sort of panel including real teachers and various representatives of the industries to hack out exactly what we are going to teach and why before we actually think about how to teach it.

    There's a lot of talk about programming, which isn't as inaccessible as people like to claim, but we can't just draft that onto the current curriculum , there's too much wrong. You could argue that after the trashing of "ICT" by GNVQ, OCR and similar it really needs abandoning.

     

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    Posted by: autismuk 24/01/2012 at 18:14
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    Tosha:

    It isn't possible, programming is like painting, some have an eye for it some don't.

     

     

    Yes, but you can say the same about reading and writing. It's about levels and varying approach. Don't teach everyone Python script - teach different systems, graphical programming, modifying already working programs, building up programs from components, even going as far as things like "Games Factory" or SEUCK.

    What I find is that there is a certain level where people struggle with abstraction. Print "Hello World", no problem, but A=C+1 ..... I suspect they have similar problems with algebra. Years ago I wrote a BASIC interpreter (was BBC B time) where the numbers and boxes were on screen and values literally moved about from box to box to calculator ; helped a bit but not much. I think this is the stumbling block.

    This doesn't mean they can't do component programming, or modifying programs that work, or something akin to VB6 where you drag and drop and have very simple events. 

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    Posted by: autismuk 24/01/2012 at 21:14
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    Didn't they teach grammar and punctuation as part of your degree ? Or how to use paragraphs ?

    How are you going to create Android apps ? Android SDK ? Cross compiler ?

    Or are you (my money be on this one) using one of those sites that churns them out automatically with minimal real input, using Java as the porting tool ?

     

     

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    Posted by: johnblack 25/01/2012 at 19:30
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    How much money do you have, cause I fink I can afford grammar lessons now! Xx
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