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    Posted by: TeasMad 27/01/2012 at 21:50
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    Last week I read in OCR's 'new' scheme of work for mod C5 of 21C science

    "Demonstrate that approximately one fifth of the air is oxygen by using a burning candle on a watch glass/petri dish in a trough of water. Place an upturned beaker over the top of the candle. When the candle goes out it has used up the oxygen and the water will rise up the beaker to replace the used gas. The percentage the water has moved up the beaker is approximately equivalent to the amount of oxygen in the air."

    I was vaguely horrified (if not exactly surprised!) to read this rubbish, and emailed OCR to that effect - they have yet to reply. 
    Anyone had any previous success correcting stuff published by exam boards?   Perhaps more adverse publicity is only way to get an improved version... hence posting here to see what others think

    About the most comprehensive (correct) information I could find online is an article by H Dhindsa - Googling 'Dhindsa candle burning' should find it. 
    I also found what I thought was a rather better lesson plan then OCR's at
    www.abc.net.au/science/surfingscientist/pdf/lesson_plan10.pdf

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    Posted by: lunarita 28/01/2012 at 10:37
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    I also hate this experiemt, though have only seen it at KS3, not GCSE.

    In fact, I remember first seeing it as a trainee and thinking 'wow, how clever' until I started to think about it and work out numbers of moles and stuff.

    I knowit's a very good visual thing but it's all wrong and I can't bring myself to do it.

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    Posted by: mm38 28/01/2012 at 11:11
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    Surely you'd be much better off doing the heating copper  between two gas syringes experiment if you want to know how much oxygen is in the air?

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    Posted by: TeasMad 28/01/2012 at 12:43
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    Yes, you would!  That experiment is not in the sample lesson plan, which chooses the candle experiment as #1 demo, but it is listed in the scheme of work elsewhere 'A second example is the two gas syringes connected to either end of a small tube containing copper...'

    I think I remember watching the candle experiment when I was about 12, and being too ignorant to question it.  Distressing that it is still being taught this way ** years later. Who writes these schemes of work anyway?

    If you actually did the experiment in the way the surfing scientist link suggests (probably with a top GCSE set, or an A level chemistry group) it could be really educational, you could discuss misconceptions, talk about how easy it can be to draw incorrect conclusions, and then plan further experiments to prove/disprove the various theories.

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    Posted by: blazer 28/01/2012 at 15:25
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    Being an old b*gg*r I can recall doing the burning in a jar experiment in primary school (60s) possible year 5 but it may have been earlier.

     

    It would make a good starter at KS3 just to get the kids thinking about oxygen and perhaps allowing them to add a side to the fire triangle but as a quantitative GCSE chemistry prac it stinks!

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    Posted by: blazer 28/01/2012 at 15:26
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    I should also add that the result you get will depend on the shape and size of the jar and the length of candle you employ.

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    Posted by: blazer 28/01/2012 at 15:27
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    It confirms what I have long suspected that most science syllabuses are written by unemployed Art History graduates!

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    Posted by: phlogiston 28/01/2012 at 16:34
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    An experiment in 21st century?

    Ah, only a demo,and a wrong one. This was supposed to be the jewel in the crown of modern science education - and it's so badly structured - and boring.

    Then last year OCR were giving grade A to candidates who got half the C456 paper wrong followed by us wondering why our A level students struggled so much. 21st century has really put me off my job.

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    Posted by: aldebaran 31/01/2012 at 19:41
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    This is a schoolboy error and should have no place in a document purporting to have anything to do with science. It does nothing to help the public face of the awarding bodies, nor of science in general. Please let us know of OCR's reply.

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    Posted by: TeasMad 31/01/2012 at 20:35
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    Sadly the deathly silence from OCR remains unbroken. Has been over a fortnight now.  Will let you know if they ever reply, but I'm not holding my breath.

    Still, my own kids - KS1 age - had a lot of fun the other day in the kitchen demonstrating that we could easily displace 38% of the air from a large coffee jar using 4 small birthday cake candles (that's some impressive 'oxygen consumption!').  1 candle displaced 17%, for reference.

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