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    Posted by: Elohim 28/01/2012 at 15:05
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    The theory of womanly schools suppressing boys behaviour is becoming frighteningly more real as I walk around a different school - an international school where the corridors and classrooms are very much male dominated.

    Primary school children are reasonably pushed in sport where out of breath pupils and those injured are encouraged to carry on. A Year 6 teacher demonstrates how to muscle out a player using the back or shoulder while successfully keeping possession of the football.

    The dry sense of humour of one Year 5 teacher expresses his regret that the classroom's electronic sunroof doesn't close fast enough - since he was looking forward to "trapping things in there... like animals".  A raw of laughter follows. And then there was the nuttiness of a lower Key Stage 2 supply teacher who dared to fight children with imaginary lightsabers and ask them to fake a death with a dramatic fall to the ground as a literacy lesson starter. Even more unconventional and less lady-like was when he showed a Youtube video, featuring a fart as the punchline, for no other reason than it was funny. 

     All of my observations as a TA over a week of school showed that male teachers are absolutely essential to pupils at primary schools - not just as academic and social role models - but as contributors to a balanced school culture with both male and female influences. 

     


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    Posted by: Imsdal 28/01/2012 at 16:41
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    I've noticed that it's usually boys who are in trouble -would love to find more ways of harnessing "boyish" behaviour rather than trying to repress it.
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    Posted by: CanuckGrrl 28/01/2012 at 17:08
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    Elohim:
    male teachers are absolutely essential to pupils at primary schools - not just as academic and social role models - but as contributors to a balanced school culture with both male and female influences. 

    Nicely put. Too bad the powers-that-be just don't get it.

    This is one more area where Scottish education lags decades behind other English-speaking countries. I was astonished when I arrived here to find primary schools with not one man on staff.  

    Canadian schools were like this 50 years ago, of course, but we ditched that model as blatantly sexist. Now, primary staffrooms are pretty much evenly split---you know, just like the population as a whole.

    The positive influence of male teachers in the primary school on both boys and girls, but particularly on boys, is well-documented. 
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    Posted by: poor tom 28/01/2012 at 18:33
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    The OP seems to equate masculinity with idiocy. A false basis for his or her 'conclusion'.

    I see enough self-styled macho farters in S2 as it is...

    The value of male (and female) teachers in all schools (not just primary) is to model non-sexist roles, and undermine/prevent the harm which stereotyping inevitably brings.

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    Posted by: airy 28/01/2012 at 21:13
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    CanuckGrrl:
    Canadian schools were like this 50 years ago, of course, but we ditched that model as blatantly sexist. 
    I don't think all female primary schools are a "model". I'm sure we'd like a better balance but there seems to be a lack of male applicants.
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    Posted by: Dominie 29/01/2012 at 07:54
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    airy:
    CanuckGrrl:
    Canadian schools were like this 50 years ago, of course, but we ditched that model as blatantly sexist. 
    I don't think all female primary schools are a "model". I'm sure we'd like a better balance but there seems to be a lack of male applicants.
    Adding 50% to teachers' salaries would sort that.
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    Posted by: airy 29/01/2012 at 10:05
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    Do you think? Just last week there was a post on the "main" Opinion forum about make Primary teachers being seen as paedophiles. I doubt this week's news has done much to change that perception. Money is only part of it, otherwise we'd have no men in Secondary teaching either.
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    Posted by: CanuckGrrl 29/01/2012 at 14:33
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    airy:
    I don't think all female primary schools are a "model".

    Of course they are a model, and of the most insidious kind for being unintentional and hence unexamined---for being just the way things are. 

    All-female primary schools represent various assumptions about the proper roles of men and women and implicitly reinforce all sorts of sexist stereotypes in ways that should be unacceptable in a modern society..

    airy:
    I'm sure we'd like a better balance but there seems to be a lack of male applicants.

    Well, of course there is. Why would young men in this country ever aspire to teach in primary schools when they see no authentic place for men there?

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    Posted by: CanuckGrrl 29/01/2012 at 14:42
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    airy:
    Just last week there was a post on the "main" Opinion forum about make Primary teachers being seen as paedophiles. I doubt this week's news has done much to change that perception.

    Oh right, that old sexist perception, that men are dangerous and women are safe. The media do a great job of propping up those ancient stereotypes, don't they?
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    Posted by: Dominie 29/01/2012 at 15:09
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    airy:
    Do you think? Just last week there was a post on the "main" Opinion forum about make Primary teachers being seen as paedophiles. I doubt this week's news has done much to change that perception. Money is only part of it, otherwise we'd have no men in Secondary teaching either.
    I looked around my staff room t'other day and I was the only male there. Secondary used to be lagely male. Now it's going the same way as primary. It's not just salaries but men are not going to come into teaching unless it offers a premium of some kind. Most people who do any research at all know that it's a tough job with long hours prep which the hols no longer compensate for.
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