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    Posted by: kisforkaren 31/01/2012 at 21:28
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      I am planning to move to Australia on a working visa for a year. I will have become a NQT Scottish Secondary teacher in Modern Studies (only in Scottish curriculum) by then. My degree is in Geography and Politics but my PGDE is only in Modern Studies. I am hoping I can teach Geography/History but I am not sure how flexible Australia will be. I am doing a 140 TEFL course this summer in English. Can I apply for casual teaching posts in Australia? Where am I most likely to find work in this profession? Any advice much appreciated. Thank you. 

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    Posted by: littlemissraw 01/02/2012 at 03:33
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     Have you taught for a year post training? Whats state are you going to? As they'll all vary. x

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    Posted by: kisforkaren 01/02/2012 at 18:31
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     yeah i am due to finish my probation year in June. I am very flexible with states, I guess thats why its so difficult knowing where to go?! x

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    Posted by: lorri_r82 01/02/2012 at 18:39
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    My experience of Australia has been that it can very difficult to get a job on a WHV. You have apply to each state seperately if you want to work there. My main experience is of WA, I found that there were not really any agencies but any relief work was organised by individual schools (they advertise for teachers to be part of a "pool") the main employer I had was simply a speculative C.V sent to HR at the school and luckily they kept asking for me back. 

     

    One thing I will say now is that it is VERY difficult to get the money the superannuation owes you when you leave the counrty ( the way I am being treated at the moment I am suspecting them of being very dishonest in their dealings with me) Do notEXPECT your money back from superannuation. Unless you want to fight for it (which I am doing now).  Australian superannuation (pension) is compulsory.

     

    Sorry about the slight negative slant of my post but I thought it was important that you know what can happen. In addition I have a friend there at the moment who is being paid more for washing dishes than an unpromoted teacher at the top of the pay scale and it is very expensive to live in Australia. 

     

    Good luck, hope you find things more positive than I did.

     

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    Posted by: kisforkaren 01/02/2012 at 19:16
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     thank you for your help regardless!

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    Posted by: lorri_r82 01/02/2012 at 19:30
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    I should probably add that the best time to find work is in terms 2 and 3 (from March onwards)

    as winter is, just like the UK, when teachers in the schools start to phone in sick most. So if you need to work straight away theni'd only go out shortly before then.  As previously stated you need to apply to each state seperately (and for WA you had to get documents certified at the embassy-not just by specific professions) you will need a working with childerns check. Though this needs your employer to sign off on it so you will not be able to get it unless you are offered something (as long as they receive the receipt reasonably quickly they will allow you to work until this comes through)

     

    If you don't manage to get teaching work easily rural Australia is where some decent money can be made by foreigners (though just for hospitality) or working in the mines also allows for some decent savings to be made.  Though I hope you don't have to go down this route and you manage to secure the type of work you want.  It's probably been mentioned but you can't work with the same employer for more than six months.

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    Posted by: phie 01/02/2012 at 21:25
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    I agree you have to register with each state separately. However, with the completion of the teacher standards program once you have registered with one teacher registration board the rest with give you reciprocal rights, whatever that looks like. But realistically you are not going to be travelling between states on a daily basis. If you are in living close to a boarder you are able to get a special arrangement with the teaching boards in both states. I have been known to teach in between the ACT and NSW as a relief teacher. Some public school systems expect you to register with their centralised department of education and training (NSW, WA, SA, QLD, ACT do this) others such as VIC don't. Some of the CEO's will expect you to register with them as well. This is because they need your bank details etc so they can pay you as much as anything. It is then best to drop your CV and documents into the schools you would like to teach. I would like to point out the cost of living in WA is very high. Especially in the north with the mines ie a 3 bedroom house in Port Headland is worth $3000 a week where as a similar house in Canberra would go for $500 a week. A beginning teacher is worth about $55,000 depending on the state and special payments. Relief staff earn about $300 a day. The good thing about not having agencies is that you are not losing a huge amount of your pay to the agency Super is not considered part of your pay. It is a contribution your employer makes on your behalf for your use once you have retired at a after certain age. Your employer's contribution is 9% of your salary. When your are told your pay it is exclusive of your employer's super contribution on your belief. Considering the financial situation of Britain you maybe better keeping your super in Australia where it will grow effectively and give your a good lump sum in your future. .
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    Posted by: lorri_r82 01/02/2012 at 22:04
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    Interesting point about the super. Mine however seemed only to be going DOWN not up. By the time they had taxed my super and taken out 'voluntary' insurance (i think) contributions I could imagine it very quickly becoming zero. Though, i admit, you do seem to have a much better idea of the situation than I did. (only having been there a year myself)

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    Posted by: 576 01/02/2012 at 22:48
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    UK school year finishes in July

    but Aus starts in January - can you afford to be unemployed for 5 months?

    and then when you come home - They finish in December - you'll probably be out of work for at least 3 months.

    I just want to point out that your idea to go for a year! May not be as straight forward as it seems at first.

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    Posted by: HappyPixie 02/02/2012 at 19:51
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    lorri_r82:

      In addition I have a friend there at the moment who is being paid more for washing dishes than an unpromoted teacher at the top of the pay scale and it is very expensive to live in Australia. 

     

     

     

    Can you pass on the name of your friend's employer? I'd be dead chuffed with getting over $350/day for washing dishes! :D

     

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