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    Posted by: apmcarthur 31/01/2012 at 21:39
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    Hi all,

    I have been teaching for 5 years and I have a 2:2 on my degree.

    How much do you think it matters that I have a 2:2 compared to a 2:1 for future job opportunities?

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    Posted by: djphillips1408 31/01/2012 at 21:41
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     it's utterly irrelevant

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    Posted by: apmcarthur 31/01/2012 at 21:44
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    Really? You dont think having a 2:2 would close doors to me as opposed to having a 2:1?

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    Posted by: djphillips1408 31/01/2012 at 21:49
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    What doors? 

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    Posted by: SageDerby 31/01/2012 at 21:50
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    apmcarthur:

    Really? You dont think having a 2:2 would close doors to me as opposed to having a 2:1?

    I got a third and it's made no difference to me, I've never been that ambitious - however a colleague, also with a third, is now a deputy head.

    Mind you I did my degree 30 years ago so it's probably the equivalent of a PhD these days.

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    Posted by: apmcarthur 01/02/2012 at 07:51
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    Posted by: mymoose 01/02/2012 at 07:57
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    It may not make a difference to some, but to others it will. With a pile of application forms for an NQT post, full of people with limited / no teaching experience, what is one way that the pile may be shortlisted? On the other hand, after a few years of solid experience and accolades longer than Fred Goodwin's, it probably shouldn't matter that much.

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    Posted by: robot1 01/02/2012 at 12:37
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    It matters now.  It didn't matter so much (in teaching) in the old days.  When I did my degree in the 1989 very few people did a degree (about 20% l think). 

    Now employers would probably have to take account of the massive grade inflation that has taken place.  GCSE C grade is now considered to be the 'basic' level qualification expected of all.  In the old days a C grade O' Level was a good achievement.  In those days a CSE grade 3 was the basic level of achievement.  The effect of this filters up with a GCSE A grade more like a C grade in the old days.  At A' Level it is the same picture.  So by the time you get to degree level I would say a 2:1 today is probably like at third class from the old days.  Third class degrees didn't go down too well even then.

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    Posted by: briggs1209 01/02/2012 at 12:40
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    It matters less and less as the number of years of teaching increases.  Grade inflation at university level is rampant - how long before we see a 1st* on a degree certificate ?

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    Posted by: autismuk 01/02/2012 at 13:08
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    SageDerby:

    apmcarthur:

    Really? You dont think having a 2:2 would close doors to me as opposed to having a 2:1?

    I got a third and it's made no difference to me, I've never been that ambitious - however a colleague, also with a third, is now a deputy head.

    Mind you I did my degree 30 years ago so it's probably the equivalent of a PhD these days.

     

    I'm irritated by the numbers of Firsts thrown about these days. I remember when I was at University virtually no-one got a first (same time roughly) - a couple of Sheldonesque Mathematicians.

    The three guys who got Firsts in my CS year (out of about 90) were all Chinese (from China, not British born of Chinese descent) and worked virtually every hour of every day.

    Nowadays you get a first with three tokens off packets of Rice Krispies.

     

     

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