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    Posted by: Lara mfl 05 01/02/2012 at 13:46
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     As some posters know I am coping with 'the long slow goodbye of Alzheimer's' with my Mum. Several poeple have posted recently they are having similar problems (often juggling our children at the other end too)either in separate posts and on the Bereavement thread.

    So following in the spirit of that thread, I wondered if we ought to have our own thread to 'rant' on occasionally or offer help and advice, use as counselling etc.?

    If so, perhaps you could post occasionally (so every now and again it comes to the top and gets noticed by others who might want such help) and bookmark this thread to alert you when others post and we can provide some support for each other.

    If there's no need we can quietly let this thread die. (Though I might quite selfishly use it occasionally)!

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    Posted by: Sorrim 01/02/2012 at 15:35
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    Hi, I'd support it. I'm having the same problems and have been posting on bereavement, which I have found very helpful although, strictly speaking, as mum is still alive, I'm not bereaved.
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    Posted by: Arched Eyebrow 01/02/2012 at 15:47
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    Much sympathy Lara and Sorrim. It must be very difficult for you watching the deterioration of your loved ones as well as the relationship you had with them changing or vanishing completely.

    I am not caring for her or nursing her but it hurts to witness the change in my once strong, chatty, capable, out-going and slightly domineering ex mother-in-law. We became friends and she used to love me as her own. She is a silent shell of her old self and although still physically quite strong, all her personality, drive, life force etc has gone...She is docile and vacant, often confused and has to be guided by others and it's all so sad....and quite frightening. Where did she go?

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    Posted by: Lara mfl 05 01/02/2012 at 19:16
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    Arched Eyebrow:
    it hurts to witness the change in my once strong, chatty, capable, out-going and slightly domineering ex mother-in-law. We became friends and she used to love me as her own. She is a silent shell of her old self and although still physically quite strong, all her personality, drive, life force etc has gone...She is docile and vacant, often confused and has to be guided by others and it's all so sad....and quite frightening. Where did she go?
     

    I think so many people watching their loved ones deteriorate like this would say that sums up the situation quite well, unless they've got the opposite antagonistic, violent stage. (We have episodes of this with my Mum when ever we stray into 'needing looking after' territory.) So my Mother currently has a number of 'New Friends', most definitely not Carers. The firm is very understanding and do not turn up in their uniform, but normal clothes (with their identification hidden under their jumper/cardi etc.). Currently Mum is accepting, muttering under her breath, as opposed to being agressive with the. Long may it last.

    Fortunately she doesn't like going out- lots of hyperventilation / clutching her chest / saying "Just leave her here,I can't go on!" type things 9typical anxiety apparently). But talking to the people at her clubs, she is fine when she gets there and all symptoms vanish. So we sort of 'bully her a little' (positive re-inforcement might be a better term I suppose) to get into the taxi. So her reclusiveness and dislike of the dark mean she is very safe where she is at the moment- though I've got a pot of black paint ready to paint in her small porch for if that behaviour starts. Apparently large black (or white sometimes) areas their brain often interprets as a deep hole, so they won't step into it.

     

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    Posted by: PlymouthMaid 01/02/2012 at 19:20
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    Good idea. My poor Dad has been afflicted wit Parkinsons for about 12 years or so now. He is very frail and unsteady and has lost all his spark. life is a drag for him now and it is so sad he can no longer enjoy family events the way he used too. Also very hard on my Mum who is his carer pretty much 24/7. I don't see them as much as they would like because of work so lots of guilt here too.
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    Posted by: Lara mfl 05 01/02/2012 at 19:23
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    Sorrim:
    I'm having the same problems and have been posting on bereavement, which I have found very helpful although, strictly speaking, as mum is still alive, I'm not bereaved.
      Technically true (which is why I decided to start this thread), but in only ways that someone experiencing the problem can understand, we do 'mourn' every day/week, every time they lose yet another ability. They do 'die' just very slowly and painful for us to watch.

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    Posted by: Manashee 01/02/2012 at 19:37
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    Hi Lara

    I often read the 'Bereavement' thread (and occasionally post) and your situation is very similar to mine.

    After beaving very oddly and eccentrically for quite some time, my mum was finally diagnosed with dementia in 2008 and we've been to Hell and back in that time. My dad died nearly 14 years ago and I've watched mum go from being a feisty, independent little soul to a bewildered and confused shell of a human being, incarcerated in a care home. It's a very good care home, but it's not her home and I know she's not really happy there.

    I feel guilty and upset that we couldn't continue to support her living in her own home, but she really took a turn for the worse in Feb last year and Social Services advised us that she needed 24 hr supervision. Short of abdicating from my own life and decamping from my home and leaving husband and dog (and mortgage) behind, the only option was a care home.

    I visit every week and she seems happy to see me, but it's like the lights are on and nobody's home. She keeps asking me if I've seen dad lately (she forgets he's dead), she has no idea what day of the week it is and constantly repeats the same questions. I tell her bits and pieces about what's going on in my life, but as soon as the words are out of my mouth, she forgets what I've said.

    I had to clear and sell her home (our family home - where my pet dogs are buried and where my dad died) last year. In the end I couldn't face doing the clearance myself (it was physically & emotionally knackering, as well as massively time consuming) and I had to get a professional firm in to do the job. A lot of things had to simply be binned and the rest has been sitting in a rented storage unit since the end of November. I can't face the task of going through everything and deciding what to do with it, so I'm being an ostrich and simply sticking my head in the sand for now...

    I also worry about the implications for my own future. Both my grandmothers and now my mum have succumbed to this *** disease and I wonder if this will be my fate too? Every time I go upstairs and have one of those 'what did I come up here for?' moments, or misplace my keys I think 'oh God - is this the start?'.

    I've only just turned 47. I'm bitter, angry and I f***ing hate dementia.

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    Posted by: Lara mfl 05 01/02/2012 at 22:20
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     Oh Manashee, so been there with your last statement! "I hate dementia!"but would add 'with a vengeance'!

    Like you, my Mother has gone from feisty, independant and capable after my father's death (also 14 years ago yesterday) to an aimless woman with no initiative, who obviously can no longer make any sense of the world, apart from to 'lash out' in frustration.

    Also like you this is the third time we've seen this as both her sister and sister-in-law succumb, holding on till 'end-stage' foetal position' unable to even support their own heads. Plus my father's maiden aunt, who'd helped bring him up . Which is why I  (and her too) find this so difficult- we know where it will all lead and like many Alzheimer's she is very fit- it will be 40 years ago this April she survived a heart attack and all the medical team remark how supple, mobile and healthy she is- just doesn't have the mental capacity to do anything with that health! I think of her as the 'EverReady Bunny', unable to wind down, just mechanically moving with no purpose and not going anywhere.

    You obviously ahd no choice but to put her into Care- I know if my mother had to go into hospital, they'd probably insist she couldn't come home and care for herself, but I also know she'd hate that (it's been enough of a fight to get these 'friends' in) and yes like your mother, she is happy being in her own home and doesn't want to end up in a home like others she's seen.

    Anyway perhaps this thread can give comfort, help and advice to others, just as the Bereavement thread has done.

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    Posted by: Sorrim 01/02/2012 at 22:29
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    I too agree with your statement. I hate what this disease has done to my lovely mum. I hate how it makes me feel. I hate feeling guilty yet knowing I can't do everything or be everywhere. I hate that I can't have a conversation like we used to have and some days I feel like screaming while I'm trying to smile. I NEVER thought this would happen to her but as I keep telling her, it's the hand we've been dealt and we have to get on with it. I know this thread will be a source of comfort in the same way the bereavement one has been to many people. Thanks for starting it. Sorrim x
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    Posted by: Manashee 01/02/2012 at 22:36
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    I'm glad you started this thread, Lara. If I can be of any help to anyone who is in a similar situation, I'd be glad to offer support and advice as much as I can.

    I would have been so grateful for this 4-5 years ago when I first suspected that something was wrong with mum, but didn't know what to do about it or where to go.

    I actually first raised concerns with mum's GP in 2006, but was fobbed off with the usual 'oh she's got a virus, that's why she's a bit confused' nonesense. If I'd pushed harder, she might have had an earlier diagnosis and been prescribed medication that could have slowed down the progression of the disease.

    It's been a bloody steep learning curve and I've been at my wits end on more than one occasion, I don't mind telling you. Luckily, I have some amazing friends and a more than amazing husband who have been the greatest support imaginable, so I count my lucky stars.

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