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    Posted by: Coolgiraffe 04/02/2012 at 21:21
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    Hi,

    I'm getting myself a bit worked up about this and wondered what others do in the situation?

    I want my newborn baby who is due in a few weeks to have a good relationship with her grandparents but one of them smokes.

    It all got me thinking again at an antenatal class where the latest advice was that anyone who smoked had to keep away from baby for 20 minutes and wash their hands after smoking.

    The grandparent smokes about 4 - 10 per day and always smokes outside, I'm sure this grandparent will wash hands etc and never smoke around the baby but it worries me about the future. i know I won't be able to ever leave my child there for sleepovers / babysitting for fear of them coming into contact with the chemicals on skin / hair etc.

    Wondered what others do about this please?

    Maybe my hormones are creating too much worry :-(

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    Posted by: brettgirl2 04/02/2012 at 21:54
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    Personally I wouldnt stress unless they were smoking around the baby. My dad smokes and my father in law did (and more than my dad) when my first was a baby and it never occurred to me that it may be a problem at all.
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    Posted by: tweesie 05/02/2012 at 10:15
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    I have the same worry with my mum and am grateful for the ante-natal info as that's something I didnt know.

    Mum's smoking has always been a "she's an adult, we're adults" thing. We know she knows the risks etc, but it reared its ugly head last summer when I got married and insisted on my dress being stored at my sisters and that mum needed to be more aware of how the smoke gets into everything, even though she either smokes in one room or outside.

    My concern is doubled by the fact that I know she smokes in the same way (though will open windows/use extractor fan) when my nieces are there, however my husband has chronic asthma and its genetic, so highly likely our baby will have it. I want my mum and dad to have the same relationship that I had with their parents (frequent stop overs etc) but am not sure how to broach this difficult subject.

    Any thoughts for me too? Thanks xx

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    Posted by: brettgirl2 05/02/2012 at 10:28
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    For me the smoking in the house even in one room would be a problem. That is a lot worse in my opinion than strictly outside only. Can you talk about it with her? In terms of Asthma my hubby has it but my nearly three year old seems fine (and was ff) so fingers crossed your lo will be too.
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    Posted by: spiderkin 05/02/2012 at 10:42
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    my husband and in laws smoke and i had childhood asthma. i was worried about this but my LO is fine.

    my friend and her partner don't smoke, no smokers in her family, no history of asthma and her 8 month old has had repeated chest infections and is now on a nebuliser and inhaler.

    air pollution from cars is, in my opinion, far worse and i used to hate pushing my LO by busy roads when i was walking into town. just as many chemicals in them!

    try not to worry about it.

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    Posted by: Tangit 05/02/2012 at 15:32
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    Ooooh! difficult one! I can understand completely (as an ex smoker who now detests it 1000%) if they don't smoke inside the house then that's a bit different - as long as they wash hands, get some chewing gum in etc, many smokers' homes don't smell of smoke. However, if they do smoke inside (and it is their house after all) then it's a bit different. If it is your own parent/s then you could say something to them (every one who smokes knows its bad for you and probably wishes they could give up - there is no argument to be had really). If it's in-laws, then get OH to speak to them. The only thing I would say, is to be sensitive-ish as at the end of the day, it's not a crime and they're not serial killers. Plus, you don't want to 'burn your bridges' as you'll probably need favours from them (be it an emergency, school stuff or a well deserved night out). You can't then turn round and say "oh, it's alright now". Could you make up an excuse that baby will only settle in own bed/house so if you need them to baby sit etc, they'd be best to come to you?? (think yourself lucky- my mil was a closet drinker/alcoholic! No kidding!) X
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    Posted by: Andi H 05/02/2012 at 21:00
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    This is a real nightmare for us. My Mum is a heavy smoker and lives more than 200miles away so when we see her we stay for the week. While we are there she goes outside to smoke, but at all other times she smokes in every room of the house.

    Within a night of arriving I am bunged up and struggle to sleep at night as I can't breathe properly (and I don't have asthma), the smoke is in every fabric, the curtains and especially the carpet. LO stinks of smoke from crawling on the carpet from the minute we arrive and when we get back to our home we realise everything we took with us absolutely stinks, even things I haven't taken out of the suitcase! Takes us a week to get everything through the washing machine and you can smell smoke in the room we leave the clothes in while waiting to be washed.

    Not much advice there, I'm sorry. Wouldn't say it was hormones though, I think it's a real concern that is very hard to address without the feeling of guilt on someone's part.

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    Posted by: glitterkid 05/02/2012 at 21:30
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    My FIL is a very heavy smoker and smokes in their open plan living / dining area like a chimney!  He also smokes in their bedroom upstairs and the smell seems to get everywhere, although as a non-smoker I know I notice it more!  I was really concerned about it with my first, and hated the idea of taking him there.  My husband smokes, but outside, and is fastidious about washing hands, taking off his coat etc to reduce the smokiness. I broached it with my MIL thinking she could approach FIL in the best way.  She was very good and any time she came round would take off her coat and wash her hands before touching baby.  She actually looks after LO twice a week when I;m working, but I refused to let him go to her house - I;d have rather paid a childminder as I hate smelling smoke off kids (you know the ones in school whose books even reek of cigs) so she comes to my house (means I have to be a bit tidier through the week but works out well).  I have relaxed somewhat and said that if she wants to take LO to her house he has to go into the living room where FIL doesn;t smoke (initally FIL went nuts at this and threw a real wobbly with me, but hey ho, I stuck to my guns).  It's a bit of a touchy subject with everyone, and I think they sometimes think I'm being unreasonable, but I feel quite strongly about it! 

     

    My advice would be just bring it up casually in a "here's what I leanred at antenatal".  If it's your in laws, maybe OH could broach it?

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    Posted by: glitterkid 05/02/2012 at 21:35
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    Sorry coolgiraffe, just realised you were asking about sleepovers and stuff.  As a PP said, it is often easier for them to come to you for babysitting (provided you have a spare room, we don't!) so that might help you out for the odd night here and there.  As you say, they smoke outside, and will prob be on boartd with handwashing and stuff - - my husband has a coat by the back door that he wears outside when he's having a cig - sounds a bit strange, but it makes me feel a bit better that his normal clothes aren;t all smokey! 

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    Posted by: beachhut 06/02/2012 at 05:40
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    I have not had this issue as OH and I, his family and mine (apart from my brother who lives abroad anyway) are all non smokers.  Just to say that I know it's an emotive issue and people can be very touchy about it but I feel very strongly about smoking around / in a way that affects children (to me smoking in your house and wanting your grandchildren to stay is smoking around children) and would always make my view known, as tactfully as possible.  But it would be non-flexible.  The effects of smoke on the health of my children is too important to me to be able to leave it be.

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