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Today I had kept four behind so I was off my guard - but when I let these four go of course the same thing happened. Irritating but at least it narrows it down. No matter how long I am in teaching, I never quite know what to do in these circumstances. Should I:-
- just do nothing (probably sensible but I know that this will just keep on happening now)
-give up and move the trays (not much room though)
- give them all a detention unless one of them owns up (dodgy I know)
- speak to them individually to see if one will grass the culprit up (they haven't so far)
I would love to know if any Tessers have a special way of investigating things like this - any tips?
I'd move the tray - least stressful option. Otherwise why not give them all a detention if they won't own up? Can't see how that would stop them from doing it again though.
Or stand at the door when they leave the room.
It's a game to them now. Just move the tray. Like I had to move a large box of crayons....
Of course, you get even more p*ss*d *ff when you're the one who has to keep on with the evasion tactics, while they keep finding new ways to wind you up. Of course the answer is: this shouldn't be happening; kids should have at least a vague idea of civilized behaviour by Yr 9. Of course, many of them don't. I can see why a teacher would be reluctant to ask for support, with so many SMTs the way they are these days: I can just hear the 'BlametheVictim' responses: WHY ARE THEY PLAYING YOU UP? THEY'RE EVER SO GOOD FOR ME/MR FOOTBALLCOACH/MRS MATRONLY, etc.
What you need is a well-run school, where this kind of irritation isn't allowed to occur, or is at least nipped in the bud. But there don't seem to be many of them around these days...
I think I will have to move the tray although it annoys me. However I am short of space so either will have to keep something else up there which they will just knock off, or have things piled up at the back of the room - and who's to know how their minds work, they will probably find some way of knocking those things over too - still it's not so easy to run away from the back of the room is it?
I was very tempted to give them detentions (the 4 boys) but then some parent will doubtless complain that their child is being punished for nothing - they would probably claim that they didn't know who did it.
It's difficult to stand by the door - it's very cramped, and in any case what they are doing is going out, then coming back and putting their hand through the door when I have gone back to my desk.
Yes, if I take it further no doubt this will be my fault - and I hate to say that this is not my worst class, it's just that these are the only ones who have thought of doing this.
I think I had better move it before word gets round to all my year 9 classes.
Thanks again for taking the trouble to reply.
kittylionI was very tempted to give them detentions (the 4 boys) but then some parent will doubtless complain that their child is being punished for nothing - they would probably claim that they didn't know who did it.
You could try it.
I think teachers assume all too often that parents will not back us up, when I know as a parent (and most of the parents I know), we'd back the school unless the school was proven to be outrageously wrong.
If I got a phone call, email or similar saying one of my children was going to have a detention because they'd been in a group of 4 who'd misbhaved in some significant way, I'd almost certainly support it.
I've only just seen this but as someone working in an equally challenging school, I'd let them go one at a time (as I often do anyway). That way you'd know the culprit or they'd give up, and once they got used to that routine they'd probably stop bothering anyway. I always dismiss individually, I think it adds nice structure and can help to prevent corridor squabbles.
Blu-tack the trays to the filing cabinet? Might at least give you chance to get over there and find out whose hand it is.
SianioI've only just seen this but as someone working in an equally challenging school, I'd let them go one at a time
I also thought of the blutak Uvgoddess but wondered if it would be strong enough lol
Thanks again for all your suggestions - any more always welcome.
uvgoddessBlu-tack the trays to the filing cabinet? Might at least give you chance to get over there and find out whose hand it is.
Or run a small electric current through it. Or wipe a cut chilli pepper all over it. They'll get a nasty surprise next time theu touch their eyes, or even better, when they go to the loo.
Instead of giving end of day detention...let the four boys loose their breaktime, or if possible 15 mins of their lunch hour. If you did put these lads on detention and parents did complain then just explain to the parents that their child was there when this happened, refused to tell you who it was and so therefore was ' in ' on the act. Remember its your room, and the students should follow your rules...
I have sometimes tried a small class reward for "good behaviour" in situations like this, where the culprit is hard to catch (no flying files for a week, say, in this situation); the rest of the class might put pressure on the culprits to give it up if they all lose out.
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