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I need some help relating to a choice of PGCE. I had my hearts set on a PGCE Social Science at the Institute of Education, but was told that they are now only accepting applicants with Sociology or Psychology as their main degree. Unfortunately, my BA degree is in Political Science and International Studies and my MA is in Global Security, Terrorism and International Crime. My A levels are in Psychology, Sociology and Politics. Would a PGCE in Citizenship be suitable for me?
I have noticed that the PGCE in Citizenship does list applicants with Politics degrees as suitable candidates. I would ideally like to be teaching Sociology, Politics and other Humanities type subjects as I have a keen passion for these subjects. I have a number of queries:
(1) What subjects would you be asked to teach when completing your placement on the PGCE Citizenship?
(2) What subjects do most teachers in PGCE Citizenship usually teach and do they do many Post 16 subjects such as Sociology and Politics if they find a job in a school.
Please help as I do see myself working in the education sector as a teacher and I am currently working as a teaching assistant to improve my experience and skills.
Have a read of the 'Is citizenship dead' thread, if I were you I wouldn't do a citizenship PGCE, jobs are thin on the ground & signs are pointing towards its end a a subject.
Furthermore, as far as I'm aware, most university PGCE courses in Citizenship have stopped/will stop. I know IOE is stopping theres. So the PGCE Citizenship might not actually be an option, and, if it was, I would still encourage you to not do it!
However, to answer your questions:-
1) Not sure, most likely other humanities subjects, RE, History, Geography & PSHE at a guess. In my school we teach citizenship, but it's not taught by any citizenship specialists, we have RE, Geography, History, French & English specialists teaching it.
2) Again, not sure! I don't think Citizenship is a Post 16 subject, but I may be wrong...
From your specialisms, & subject interests, I think you'll find more of your subjects in Post 16 areas. You can work in a college & do a part time 'Cert Ed', which is a post 16 qualification. You won't find many schools teaching Sociology & Politics at GCSE/KS3, especially with the Ebacc situation.
If you are keen to work in KS3 & KS4 I would suggest an RE PGCE......??
Hope that helps!!
I have quickly checked the IOE and the GTTR websites and as far as I can see the courses are still running next year ( I could be wrong ). I would e-mail all the Uni's that offer Citizenship to ask them any questions you might have ( and if their course is still running!!!) I did this before my PGCE and found it very useful.
Completely agree with Bobdog ;-). I qualified as a Citizenship trainee last year (2010/11), and got a job teaching Citizenship few lessons a week combined with RE and History. The adaptability/versatility of Citizenship trainees is always appealing to empolyers.
Apologies for the offence & the, possibly, incorrect information.
I was drawing on my own knowledge & experience of Citizenship in my school, local area, & the nearest ITT provider.
I do find the rather rosy picture you paint of Citizenship in direct contrast to the 'Is Citizenship dead' thread, and the jobs that have been available....... but again, that may only be in my area & the situation may be different nationally.....
While talk of the immanent death of Citizenship is premature (the curriculum review is still ongoing) it appears inevitable that Citizenship will be removed as a compulsory subjectin KS3 and KS4. It will survive at KS3 as an addition to PSHE or Humanities in many schools, but is already disappearing as a GCSE and a stand alone suject at KS3.
Enroling on a Citizenship PGCE is a big risk. There were very few jobs advertised for this subject alone and schools are tending not to employ Citizenship specialists but use other teachers to 'fill in', usually other Humanities teachers.
Once again assertion based on no evidence.
You really need to stop taking this so personally and stop being so unpleasant. The number of GCSE entries has reduced by nearly 22% in one year and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that its non-inclusion in the ebac was going is one reason for this. At the end of the day it will probably return to how it was ten yeras ago, as part of PSHE. Its introduction as a compulsory subject was good but a bit odd. Perhaps it should be incorporated better as a cross-curricular subject. Does it really matter where or if it is taught?
Are you just worried about losing your job?
Try teaching RE or something else from Humanities but please no more insulting comments about unprofessionalism after all, this thread was just meant to be a conversaion about the future of our subject not an exercise in curriculum trench warfare.
As a politics graduate currently on a citizenship PGCE I would say get on it as soon as you can! Your experience and education would really help you and to be honest at the end of it you would probally have no bother getting a post in any of the social sciences.
In my second placement I'm going to be teaching citizenship, history, sociology, geography, RE and even some maths. At the end of the course I will have more varied teaching experience and be able to 'steal' the jobs off the other history and geography PGCE students. The employment rates for the last few years of my course are pretty fantastic and much better that the other humanities courses at my uni.
The biggest problem you will come accross will be people asking 'isn't citizenship just PSHE' which after a few months on the course, will annoy the hell out of you. Make sure you research what citizenship actually is before you get into the interviews and be prepared to really stand up for what the subject is trying to achieve.
Good luck with your application!
The teaching of citizenship and the leading of such a department can lead to better things. I was not a citizenship trained student teacher, but I ran a Citizenship and PSHE (then) department (as a historian originally) with 12 teachers drawn from across the spectrum. It taught me the value of negotiation and management.I would not write the subject off at all. Flexibility and a willingness to diversify are always going to be key to professional success. The popularity of debating clubs and Model United Nations in schools is evidence of students wanting to engege with the material on offer.
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