someone get rid of this ***, please? 

 who are you, gove? go away. we take enough crap as it is from the govt and media, without your mindless spouting of tory claptrap. we actually need to reduce the number of public school educated clique members in government. at the moment, i see none of them suffering from the economy being on its knees - and they're the ones who caused it/allowed it to happen/aren't doing anything much about it now. 

samantha2013

In these rough economic times, state school pay should be reduced since it is not fair to place the burden on the taxpayer. We are all in this together.

A disproportionate number of students who enter the best universities and most productive jobs come from private schools, so our private school pay should be increased at 2x the pace of inflation.

 i don't think the silly girl realises that in a market economy, she's going to find it hard to get another job with all the extra applicants. the one she's got may well fall foul of budgets and cheaper labour. 

Compassman

samantha2013

In these rough economic times, state school pay should be reduced since it is not fair to place the burden on the taxpayer. We are all in this together.

A disproportionate number of students who enter the best universities and most productive jobs come from private schools, so our private school pay should be increased at 2x the pace of inflation.

You are Michael Gove or Michael Wilshaw and I claim my £10! However, if you are not then how low do you think teachers pay should be?

 There should be a flat rate for all state school teachers. I think that £25,000 is a fair maximum salary (new recruits should start on less, say £18,000, with a 10 point scale to get to £25,000). Allowances should be capped at £5000 i.e. maximum pay to be £30,000 in London, but lower caps elsewhere, where teachers don't need to earn so much to survive.  

emilystrange

 i don't think the silly girl realises that in a market economy, she's going to find it hard to get another job with all the extra applicants. the one she's got may well fall foul of budgets and cheaper labour. 

In my well known private school, we have a reputation for paying well. We also only recruit the very best from Oxford, so state school teachers would generally not be well qualified enough.

Oh this did cheer me up on a wet Monday morning!

"We only recruit the very best from Oxford."

The very best from Oxford don't teach in private schools. They run the country.

Something suspicious here, methinks.

samantha2013

I think that £25,000 is a fair maximum salary (new recruits should start on less, say £18,000, with a 10 point scale to get to £25,000). Allowances should be capped at £5000 i.e. maximum pay to be £30,000 in London, but lower caps elsewhere, where teachers don't need to earn so much to survive.  

Try living on that in - say - Tunbridge Wells, Walton-on-Thames or many other parts of the country where living costs are nearly as high as London. You'd find recruitment impossible...

samantha2013

In my well known private school, we have a reputation for paying well. We also only recruit the very best from Oxford, so state school teachers would generally not be well qualified enough.

Why  Oxford...not really the top these days I'm afraid.

BTW if your school recrutis so well at the moment, as a private company they need to pay less until they can't fill vacancie: that's how capitalism works!

 If our present cabinet (or the OP) really represent the best from private schools and Oxford, then I don't think much to the education on offer there, certainly not the teaching of critical thinking skills, or economics.

Dear Sam,

If you are one of those 'very best from Oxford' then I do need to inform you that you do unfortunately come across as, well, to be blunt, quite thick.  I would advise keeping a low profile so that your well known private school doesn't have to become red faced at your complete inability to think beyond the end of your own snotty and pointed nose.

Also that Cambridge topped the league tables internationally as the leading university once again (You sound like the kind of person who likes a league table) 

Happy Monday - Daisy - M.A CANTAB - From a 'comp', working in a 'comp' and proud.

P.S Let's hope Oxford university press are now recruiting brighter folk from beyond the uni in order to avoid being fined 1.9 million next year eh?

samantha2013

 There should be a flat rate for all state school teachers. I think that £25,000 is a fair maximum salary (new recruits should start on less, say £18,000, with a 10 point scale to get to £25,000). Allowances should be capped at £5000 i.e. maximum pay to be £30,000 in London, but lower caps elsewhere, where teachers don't need to earn so much to survive.  

Arbitrary twaddle. What evidence do you have to support your suggestions?

Why should a teacher in Newcastle be paid less than a teacher in Devon? They do the same job, don't they? Is it the teacher's fault that Newcastle has inadeqaute provision for private sector pay and employment?

Anyway, where do you think the state employees spend their wages - in the private sector.

I notice you do not mention regional pay for MPs doctors. Why? The same principle applies.

I notice it states recruits only the very best from Oxford. No mention of the University.  Maybe she means the very best from Oxford Job Centre, or the very best from a postcard in the window of one of the newsagents in Oxford.

 I smell troll...

welshman423214

I notice it states recruits only the very best from Oxford. No mention of the University.  Maybe she means the very best from Oxford Job Centre, or the very best from a postcard in the window of one of the newsagents in Oxford.

Reminds me of Jeffrey Archer who created the impression that he was an Oxford graduate when he'd followed some courses at an Oxford College (not an Oxford University College).

samantha2013

In my well known private school, we have a reputation for paying well. We also only recruit the very best from Oxford, so state school teachers would generally not be well qualified enough.

Are you all qualified enough to deal with multiple Special needs in a mainstream classroom and increasing numbers of pupils with behavioural issues? 

Do you teach for 190 days per year in 38 school weeks?

Does your school get fined £3k for each pupil that it decides it can no longer cope with, leading to the school deciding that the teachers (and other pupils) have to put up with said pupil after all?

Me too. Sooner we ignore this person sooner she'll get bored with trying to wind everyone up. A glance at her previous post shows since her first one 10 days ago reveals a penchant for provocative attention seeking including such valuable contributions as

Immigrants of adult age should be required to sign up for front line duty in the army. If they are not prepared to fight for Queen & Country, we don't want them.

My other half banned uniformed soldiers coming into our cafe. We serve Halal food and uniformed soldiers would be provocative to our main client base.

My husband does not allow soldiers in uniform into our pub. Too many of our drinkers are anti-war, and soldiers in uniform are provocative. Soldiers not in uniform are welcome.