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Conversion course from Secondary to Primary?

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    I am a (male) qualified history teacher with 8 years experience, primarily in secondary schools, although I have limited experience in middle schools and the occasional day of supply here and there in primary. I am considering moving into primary. Are there any specific conversion courses available for me? how long are they? would I be considered for interview with my secondary background? Any advice would be greatly appreciated thanks

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    You don't need to do a conversion course (if they still exist even) because you are already qualified to teach primary as well as secondary.

    An interview after very little primary experience is highly unlikely I'm afraid. With 8 years experience, I'm assuming you are either on M6 or UPS, primary trained and experienced teachers at that level struggle to find posts. An NQT who has just trained as a primary, or someone with 1-2 years of primary experience will be ten grand or so cheaper than you and yet effectively have more experience. That is the reality.

    Try doing lots more supply in primary schools, if you can, and build up a local reputation. You may even get a long term supply post that may lead to a contract post. But it is a long shot.

    All you actually have to do is apply for posts along with everyone else and convince a HT that you are the very best candidate.

    Good Luck, but it is going to be hard.

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    I would echo what Minnie has said. The only way in is really through supply and that won't be easy. I've got a teaching post through doing supply but I'm primary trained and it still took ages. Supply is unreliable - I didn't need full time work so I was OK but if you need a full time income you'll struggle.

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    Have you thought about trying to move into the independent sector? Assuming of course that you aren't already there! Prep schools may value your expertise as a subject specialist if they are looking for a humanities teacher or coordinator. Many prep schools teach in upper KS2 as different subjects rather than having one teacher for everything. Also many independents are all-through schools, so if you prove yourself in KS3, 4 and 5 there may be scope to move into the lower school, or at least run clubs and get more experience with that age group. The main payscale is also not applicable in the independent sector, so if you are too expensive you can negotiate a drop in salary to get your foot in the door.

    Good luck!

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    Thanks to you all for your advice, much appreciated :-)
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     Couldn't a primary academy choose to give you less remuneration thus making it more "attractive" to employ you?

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    Possibly Mystery...but if you were a primary HT, would you want to pay a teacher with no training or experience, apart from secondary history, or a primary trained and experienced teacher? Even if the HT decided to pay the OP the same as an NQT who is primary trained, would the OP want a 15 grand pay cut?
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     Both unlikely scenarios I know, but you never know!!  A history graduate with a teaching qualification, and teaching experience, could have a lot to offer. 

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    Re: conversion course.

    I know an ex Secondary Geography teacher who has recently done a five month (I Think??) conversion courseto teach in Primary. In doing this, he has secured a year's maternity cover for a Year 6 class.

    I think that attending the conversion course shows you are willing to commit to primary education and therefore can compete for jobs in this sector, more confidently.

    Good luck!

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    I have to echo what the others say about this in that it is theoretically possible but in practice extremely difficult as there are so few jobs at the moment. However, I know of someone that has been teaching Secondary English for about the same amount of time as you who has just made the move into Primary teaching a Year 6 class. I don't know how easy she found it to get that job or whether it was a certain amount of luck as it's her child's school but it shows that however difficult, it is possible, so it's worth looking into as people do manage to make that move.
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    I am an NQT in the same situation, I never taught secondary again after completing my PGCE I knew I choose the wrong age range for me and I have been teaching primary (supply) for a year and half now. There is no conversion course as such, however Bradford College do a course titled 'Current Developments in Primary Education', 1 afternoon a week for 15 weeks, this course is targeted at secondary trained teachers who wish to change to primary.
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    Hello A colleague of mine has a son who has just qualified as a secondary PE teacher. He decided primary was the way forward and so he applied for a primary GTP post. He is able to do the training aspects of it in terms of curriculum, but obviously already has QTS so is not required to do all the academic side of it (essays etc) or attend the majority of university sessions. Obviously this would mean a big pay cut for someone who is used to being on main scale but is one option if you can find a school who will take you on. Many schools are also now employing permanent PPA cover staff - that would be one option?
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