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And this is way before CfE kicks in. Just wait until they start showing up for work expecting to be entertainingly "engaged" by their all-singing all-dancing bosses for every minute of the day.

CanuckGrrl

And this is way before CfE kicks in. Just wait until they start showing up for work expecting to be entertainingly "engaged" by their all-singing all-dancing bosses for every minute of the day.

I often think that CG. They will expect to be allowed to choose what they do every day!

And woe betide the boss if their wee employee gets bored on the job.

I could understand complaints from people in car sales. frau grunwald recently bought aToyota from AC, from a 19 year-old from South London. He works till 8pm, six days out of seven. Significantly perhaps, the sales personnel comprised Poles, Philippinos and Indians, as well as Scots.

Maybe CfE will actually help improve commitment levels??!! Interesting what the link says about AC wanting more people with Duke of Edinburgh Award-type experience, although I believe even those kids are tardy about turning up for meetings etc.!

readyfortheweekend

And woe betide the boss if their wee employee gets bored on the job.

Well, if that happens, it's the boss's fault. So bring on fixed-term contracts for those lazy incompetent underperforming bosses to teach 'em what for!

Now that the messenger has been shot, how about answering the question?? The reality is that there is a hard core of pupils who will have rejected whatever the Education System has to offer almost certainly by the end of S1. The Learning Support 'industry' in schools now are a complete failure as far as these pupils are concerned. Learning Support systems should be aggressively brought to bear in sorting out these pupils rather than 'cherry picking' for an easy life as happens at the moment. The 'hard core' are the ones who really will be unemployable. These are the characters who come to school dressed like drug dealers in S2,3,4 - you know the type, unwashed, mouthy, unwilling to work, no school bag, and wearing a kind of 'romper suit with a hoodie' - almost a uniform if you like. Above all the expectations of the workplace (which a school is) need to be aggressively impressed on these individuals.

gnulinux

The reality is that there is a hard core of pupils who will have rejected whatever the Education System has to offer almost certainly by the end of S1.

End of S1? Oh, earlier than that, my friend. I see it in middle primary--the "poor attitude, inability to get along with others, and shock at the working hours" that are quoted in the news report. Fully a quarter of my primary class fit this description---all of them boys, and most of them from broken or dysfunctional homes, I might add. Scottish society in a nutshell?

It used to be called "work ethic" and for these children it has disappeared.

You know, when I reflect on my own quite Victorian schooling (in a colony backwater), I sometimes wonder what harm it did, and what valuable lessons it did teach me in how to check your personal issues at the door, shoulder a grindstone, and work to the best of your ability. Was that such a bad education for life, and for work?

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Aye, you're right - there's kids in primary that you know will be unemployable. Kids from families where 3 generations have been dependent on benefits. Well Mr Cameron, well Mr Salmond, what the hell you goin' to do?

Actually, what they are going to do is nothing. Sad but true. The underclass (or as Rab C has it - scum) don't matter.

Ask yourself this - after WW2 the country was broke. Broker than even Greece now. What did Attlee, the greatest Prime Minister this country ever had do? Austerity? Cuts? Cut tax for rich wallies? No. He spent money introducing universal education, universal health services, rebuilding the railways and mines and telling the people that they actually mattered.

Dave and Gideon know in their Tory hearts that we (the people) don't matter.

We need to introduce work. Or should that be re-introduce work? Rebuild the railways that the Tories closed - lots of jobs - much social benefit - green as anything.

Just get the Jobseekers as they sign on, say "Fab - we've got you a job." Now it might actually involve a shovel, and an eight hour day. Tough. Here's a job. Do it. You're free to choose not to. No benefit. End of.

What's not to like?

Rgds

Sam