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moving to scotland from US, advice?

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     Hello all,

     

    I'm currently finishing up my teaching degree and student teaching across the pond in Colorado, USA. It has been a dream of mine for quite while to move over to Scotland and teach there.  I'll have my degree and license to teach history/social sciences (which i believe is modern studies?) also geography etc. 

     

    I'm wondering if there is any advice for a new teacher hoping to make the crossing over there?

     

    Thank you!

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    Honestly? Don't. Have a skim through old posts. Job situation is dire and competition is fierce. First of all you'll have to contact the GTCS because you'll need to check what you have to do to be registered (and maybe even requalify) over here. My husband is from CO and I did a little research about doing what you are in reverse and the qualifications didn't match up. If you're determined, you'll really need to bone up on current Scot Ed issues (CfE, the new qualifications, AifL, raising attainment, quality management, HGIOS to name but a few). Even to do things like voluntary work to get experience you'll need to get a disclosure... which will take a while as you live overseas and they'll have to contact international agencies. Best bet is to call the GTCS and find out the specifics of what you'll have to do even to get registered over here.
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     Thanks for the reply-

     

    I'm looking at applying for summer jobs as a tour guide over there, or maybe working in a museum.  Do you think that would be a better situation then just a cold turkey move?

     

    I'll have a chat with a GTCS person later today. I was curious about the requirements since they do seem iffy.

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    It would be good to let you see if you'd actually enjoy life over here (the sixty days a year that you DON'T get sun... we get about a third of them. Bring vitamin D)... but you'll have to investigate work permits. You won't be allowed to work on the visa waiver 90 day programme. You might qualify under the Highly Skilled Migrant programme (you need a certain amount of points depending on your age, level of education etc). Or if you happen to be married to a British person... that would help ;)
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     Not married but he's the reason for the move!  :)

     I go to Scotland every summer for at least a month the past 6 years, and I've been in autumn and ireland in winter etc.  I love that more timid weather as I usually dislike the extremes that we get in Colorado anyway.  

    I think I qualify under the HSM programme last time I checked, I would just need the school to sponsor me.  Teaching jobs are hard to find over here as well, so either way it's slim pickings I guess! 

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    why not opt for a 1 year teacher swap? Costs the local authority nothing, so are usually quite supportive. You live in your exchange teachers house and they in yours, each others employer continues to pay them. Bad news for us as UK teachers continue to pay UK tax etc. However, this remains a popular choice and method of exchange. all done through the British Council or Fulbright. Best of luck.
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     Thanks for the advice!  What programs do you sign up for for that option?  And how do you know if a certain school offers that kind of program?

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    I'm American and have been teaching here for 8 years so probably the conditions for registration haven't changed much. You will need to apply to the GTCS--this will take months. You need at least 270 days teaching in a full time post to qualify as a fully registered teacher. Your degree also needs to meet the qualifications for modern studies/history or you will have to do top up courses. Be prepared, even if you do meet the requirements for full registration, to work as learning support, etc as jobs, particularly in your area, are scarce...and that's EVERYWHERE in Scotland (no, I'm not exaggerating). Good luck, but perhaps the simplest way into a job is, indeed, retraining. The system here is completely different to what you know in the States.
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     Thanks for the reply Emily.

     

    In Colorado the jobs are also super scarce, as they are everywhere.   I'm going to be in contact with a GTCS person this week to hopefully see if my degree qualifies me to be over there with my license.  

     

    Was it hard shifting to the different system over there?

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    Actually, I retrained--did a PGCE in England and taught there for a while. This was invaluable and really helped my get my head around the exams. Once you get into the swing, it's easy enough to adjust. The hardest thing I found was the difference in the way kids regard assessment. In the States you have 4 report cards a year and you have to 'pass' a certain amount or you will have to resit the year. Here there isn't the threat of that. You get what you get and you get passed on. Conversely the exams at Higher and/or Standard Grade become hugely significant because this exam determines university placements, etc. There is no cumulative GPA that keeps the pressure on kids to do well ALL the time. I've found it harder to motivate pupils to do homework for instance (which was always part of your overall grade in the States).
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    If I were you I would seriously consider teaching in England first. Perhaps based somewhere in the north of England so you could easily travel into Scotland for weekends/holidays. It is much much easier to get a job in England and the pay is better.

    With the imminent demise of the GTC in England it will also be easier to get your qualifiactions/training recognised by individual schools or authorities than with the GTCS.

    A few years of experience in England will make it much easier to move to Scotland if that's what you want to do.

    One word of warning - if you do start teaching in England you might, after a few years, find that the better pay and conditions south of the border might make you reluctant to make that move into the Scottish system.

    Good luck.

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    you may want to recheck the payscales: I think you'll find that teachers get paid slightly more in Scotland, unless you work in London. Teachers doing the OTT programme in England get paid less than a qualified teacher
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     Thanks for the feedback Emily.

     Where and how did you get retrained?  Did you have to go back to college and for how long?

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    I retrained in England as, at that point, I hadn't considered teaching in Scotland. If you want to teach here though, I strongly recommend doing the PGDE--the job market is extremely tight and I think schools would consider applicants who did their training in Scotland above those with Diplomas elsewhere. You can do a PGDE at pretty much any university (subject depending) and it is a year long course. I applied through GTTR (but that was 12 years ago, so may have changed). Look at university web sites and have a read around. You'll need to do an interview and places are limited. Good luck!
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    I appreciate all the advice Emily!  Thanks so much for helping me out :).  I will look into it. 
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    Emily,

    I did re-check the payscales.

    Scotland: starting salary 20427 rising to maximum of 32583 (chartered teacher scheme no longer running)

    England (outside London): starting salary 21588 rising to maximum 36756 (Upper Pay Scale 3).

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    Sorry, but current salary scales for Scotland are as follows (and you can view them on the EIS website): Probationer: 21438 up to Level 6: 34,200 (the highest you go before Charter Teacher/PT, etc) Maybe I wasn't looking at the most up to date England scale
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    So still less than England then?

    Apology accepted.

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