Have you tried contacting GTC (E)? I would've thought they'd be the ones to ask.

I was in a similar position not too many years ago, so I think this is all accurate.

Although GTC(E) are about to be demised...

Your PGDE will be recognised no problem.

In order to fulfil your NQT year (if working in England, to English rules) you need to find your own job (obviously) AND if working on supply, that doesn't count, unless for a whole term in one school; you can add up 3 different whole terms. (I *think* that's right: it might just need to be a whole half-term). The odd supply day here or week, fortnight or month there, *will* earn you money (if you can get the work: cover supervisors are cheaper than teachers) but won't get you fully registered.

However, you *could* use teaching in England (even one day of supply would count towards it) towards following the Flexible Route with GTCS (but that's 4 terms, not 3..).

Completing your Probation in Scotland (by whichever means) will be accepted as completing your NQT-year requirements in England.

But... ...would you really want to work in a system which marginalises drama, thinks that specialist drama teachers are a luxury because drama can be taught by English teachers, and prioritises Michael Gove's cloud-cuckoo-land of competition and privatisation?

poor tom

But... ...would you really want to work in a system which marginalises drama, thinks that specialist drama teachers are a luxury because drama can be taught by English teachers, and prioritises Michael Gove's cloud-cuckoo-land of competition and privatisation?

.....And there aren't any holes in the system up here? Don't get me started!! The most recent debacle being the selling out of Supply teachers to preserve the benefits of permanent staff. Shameful! Leave behind the obsessive cloud-cuckoo-land for excellence, the arrogance, the self-preservation................and find an education system which values you and the contribution you can make.

LizaWithaZ

poor tom

But... ...would you really want to work in a system which marginalises drama, thinks that specialist drama teachers are a luxury because drama can be taught by English teachers, and prioritises Michael Gove's cloud-cuckoo-land of competition and privatisation?

.....And there aren't any holes in the system up here? Don't get me started!! The most recent debacle being the selling out of Supply teachers to preserve the benefits of permanent staff. Shameful! Leave behind the obsessive cloud-cuckoo-land for excellence, the arrogance, the self-preservation................and find an education system which values you and the contribution you can make.

I agree! If I had the chance to relocate back to England, you wouldn't see me for dust!

i understand that it would be recognised but i was unsure about having to do any sort of conversion test etc etc, because obviously its a different education system.....

piglet171

LizaWithaZ

poor tom

But... ...would you really want to work in a system which marginalises drama, thinks that specialist drama teachers are a luxury because drama can be taught by English teachers, and prioritises Michael Gove's cloud-cuckoo-land of competition and privatisation?

.....And there aren't any holes in the system up here? Don't get me started!! The most recent debacle being the selling out of Supply teachers to preserve the benefits of permanent staff. Shameful! Leave behind the obsessive cloud-cuckoo-land for excellence, the arrogance, the self-preservation................and find an education system which values you and the contribution you can make.

I agree! If I had the chance to relocate back to England, you wouldn't see me for dust!

 

why cant you relocate to england... inow neither countries have the best oppertunities for teachers and both have flaws but there are means and ways surley???

 Hi,

 

It is fairly simple to get yourself registered in England, many people make this move. 

You need to print out the following form and get your Teacher Training Institute to fill out Part 3 for you, then send it off to the GTCE.

www.gtce.org.uk/documents/publicationpdfs/qts_scot_0410.pdf

However, remember in Scotland you are definitely going to get 1 years employment through probation, in England you have to apply for jobs from the start, they don't do the same probation system. So it may be better to do probation, then move?

[edited by: thecuriousorange at 19:33 (GMT 0) on 18-2-2012]

I would advise you to complete probation in Scotland as you will be guaranteed an induction place and thus gain full registration.  If you then move to England you will also gain full recognition and not be required to complete an NQT year. If you move to England without completing the probationary year or gaining a post, you may not be able to complete the required three terms induction due to the job market.

Hi, slightly different request here but along the same lines..... I am a primary teacher who trained in Scotland and completed my probation year there. Since than I have moved to England and am seeking supply work. The problem I am having is finding a copy of the national curriculum in England to either buy or download. I assume if I had gone to Uni down here I would have been issued with such material as I was in Scotland for the Scottish curriculum. I have a long term supply post beginning and feel like i am going into it blind. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I think they're available onlie (try DfE) -when we were putting together a maths curriculum for the school a couple of years ago one of my colleagues pulled the English Maths curriculum from the net.

Might also be worth asking on the Englsh part of this site.

Your supply agency should be able to point you in the right direction.

The system was about to change (3 capacities: successful learners, confident individuals, and responsible citizens who make a contribution... I kid you not!) But Gove & Cameron scrapped it afetr half the schools had started putting it into effect!

But seeing as so many schools have academy-ised they don't have to follow the NC any more. You could try asking at a local school (usual 'padding' to your enquiry: "...heard great things about your school from [pupil's name]'s parents, and I'm interested in working locally now my family's relocated...").

Worthwhile looking up what OFSTED criteria are, as in many schools ALL classes are expected to be planned as if for an inspection...

Try checking out Every Child Matters as well (if you haven't already)...

 

Good luck!

hello sorry i haven't replied life has been manic. well i have secured myself a full time permanent contract at a really nice school in leeds. my lecturer advised me to take it it is unknown if i would be able to get work next year after probation an this is after all a full time permeant potions. so therefore with the scrapping of the gtce and now it has become the teaching agency can you please offer me advice as to who i need to inform or link up with or who i need to tell. i have obvs opted out of the training programme in scotland so am i counted as a flexible route student??? any advice would be greatly appreciated xxx

Service in England will count towards the flexible/alternative route for GTCS. I recommend you DO do this, as you might need/want to return to Scotland to teach someday, and I suspect that IF there's ever a non-loony-right governmment in England they might allow professional self-government of teachers again. Full GTCS registration is (well, it was when I did it recently, but befiore the GTCE died) accepted straight off in England - though your 'NQT year' (England) is likely to be completed well before your Probation. Check with GTCS: they were very helpful when I badgered them with questions.

You'll need a teacher number from the Dept of Whatever-education-is-now-called in England - try this link, but - strangely - there are still references on it to the now-defunct GTC(E): http://www.education.gov.uk/get-into-teaching/life-as-a-teacher/induction-year.aspx 

 

Well done on getting a permanent job so quickly!!! Not many manage that in England...